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From: "Sharon Kirby" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] ENG-CAMS] Re : Surnames: Plomer/Plummer etc,Parcell/Passell
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:31:18 +1000
References: <42FF8CAA8A3942259BE164A538D7800D@JanetHP>
In-Reply-To: <42FF8CAA8A3942259BE164A538D7800D@JanetHP>


Hi Janet,

thank you so very much for your prompt reply but especially for the time and
effort you took in doing this for me. It seems that you have given me a lot
to think about and update on my tree. Now that I know that there were some
Wills, I most certainly will be getting them. What a pot of gold you have
found for me. Thanks once again.

Kind regards

Sharon Kirby

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From: "Janet Booth" <>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:30 PM
To: <>
Subject: [ENG-CAMS] ENG-CAMS] Re : Surnames: Plomer/Plummer
etc,Parcell/Passell

> Hello Sharon,
>
>>From Ashwell PR Transcripts:
>
> 25 April 1703 Robert PASSELL & Ann PLOMER married
>
> According to the Cambridgeshire FHS Baptismal Index, there are no PLOMER
> baptisms from 1603-1702 although there are a batch in Leverington in the
> mid to late 1500s and a batch at Cambridge Holy Trinity in the late 1550s,
> a couple at Ickleton and a couple at Kennet also mid to late 1500s -
> perhaps worth bearing in mind if you get back earlier. Likewise no
> baptism shown for Robert in Cambridgeshire under any of the various
> spellings of his surname. However, there are the following baptisms at
> Litlington to Robert and Ann according to the Litlington PR Transcripts:
>
> 25 December 1706 Robert PARCELL
> 22 April 1708 Mary PARCELL
> 28 September 1709 John PARCELL
> 1 October 1710 Elizabeth PARCELL
> 6 October 1713 Plummer PARCELL
>
> Burials at Litlington:
>
> 17 August 1750 Eliz PASSELL, wife of Rob
> 6 May 1788 Robert PASSEL (Bishops Transcripts
> husbandman)
>
> No marriages of any of the children at Litlington that I can see on the
> Transcripts.
>
> Going back to Ashwell PR Transcripts:
>
> 26 March 1704 Anne PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised
> 5 November 1705 Sarah PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised
> buried 22 January 1705/6
> 23 September 1709 John PASSELL son Robert, labourer, buried
> 6 October 1720 Robert PASSEL of Litlington Cambs buried
> 13 July 1736 Anne PASSELL, widow
>
> Unfortunately, not all of the records are complete prior to 1686 (there is
> a gap between Mar 1676 & April 1685 & another one between 1640 & 1660
> which are just the timescales you are interested in) on the transcripts
> but here are the ones which could be relevant to you:
>
> 19 April 1664 Richard PLOMER son William & Alice baptised
> 24 September 1664 George PLOMER son John & Sarah baptised
> 2 July 1666 Elizabeth PASSELL daughter William & Joane
> baptised
> 17 September 1666 William PASSELL, paterfamilias buried
> 6 September 1667 Sarah PLOMER daughter John & Sarah buried
> 15 December 1667 Susan PASSELL wife John buried
> November 1670 Willyam PLOMER son Samuel & Ann baptised
> 13 November 1670 Ann wife Samuel PLOMER buried
> 16 May 1671 Willyam PASSILL son John & Miriam baptised
> 11 October 1671 John PLOMER & Ann GODFERY married
>
> There are others prior to 1664 but unless we can determine which of the
> above are the appropriate parents for your Robert & Anne, it will just
> complicate things totally. If Ann PLOMER's father is supposed to be a
> John (how do you know this by the way??), there would appear to be 2
> candidates - the John who married Ann GODFERY (presumably GODFREY which is
> what HALS Online MI shows it as) and the John PLOMER married to a Sarah.
> Of course, the John who married Ann could be a son of the John & Sarah but
> the relevant records are missing. However, you may just be lucky in that
> on the National Archives Documents Online site () are the following wills
> which could just help you sort out who were the parents of Robert & Anne
> (downloadable online at the cost of £3.50 each):
>
> 13 April 1728 Mary GODFREY, widow, of Ashwell (perhaps Ann's
> grandmother??)
> 9 March 1717 Joan PASSELL, widow, of Ashwell (could perhaps be
> Robert's grandmother??)
> 2 December 1715 John GODFREY, gentleman, Ashwell (perhaps Ann's
> grandfather??)
> 12 November 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell
> 5 February 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell
> 23 November 1651 Edward PLOMER, tanner, Ashwell
>
> I think Joan PASSELL's will is definitely worth speculating on and maybe
> one of the GODFREY wills too. If they are connected to your families,
> they could give you valuable information especially in view of the missing
> parish register records.
>
>>From the HALS Online Marriage Index
>>(www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/ - click on Hertfordshire
>>Names Online and then use the search boxes):
>
> 25 July 1741 Plummer PASSELL of Biggleswade, Beds & Mary LAYTON
> of Ashwell at Letchworth
>
> Lots of other PASSEL(L) & PARCEL(L) & PLOMER records so could be worth a
> look for you.
>
> HTH a little
>
> Janet
>
>
>
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