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Subject: Re: Michel Hache, full blood or half blood - Robert Hache french or native
Date: 13 May 2005 17:38:45 -0600


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I think you are absolutely correct. I never considered what you soggested about Michel Laneuf. It is definately food for thought.

To help things along somewhat ... I did a search on the internet for Robert Hache and came up these references:

1 • Marriage Contract: Notary Audouart, 26 Nov 1649, Québec City, Québec, Québec, Canada. Marie Chapelier signed the contract, but her husband could not. Her cousin Robert Hache, a donné of the Jesuits and clerk of the storehouse at Québec City, was present at the contract. A clause in the the contract specified that within a year, Robert Drouin had to find a place for the couple to live that was closer to Québec City than his current residence at the Rivière-aux-Chiens in Beauport.

2. "February 10th, 1664...
In that same month, an Indian called Robert Haché had met a young woman and had violated her while he was drunk. The young woman was Marthe Hubert, wife of Lafontaine and a resident of Île-d'Orléans. Shortly after being taken prisoner, Robert Haché succeeded in escaping from prison. In the meantime, the procureur du Roi (royal counselor) summoned: Noël Tek8erimat, chief of the Algonquins in Québec; Kaetmagnechis, commonly knows as Boyer, chief of Tadoussac; Mangouche, chief of the Nepissinien Indians (Ed. underline);Gahyk8an, chief of the Iroquets (a tribal nation in the heart of Canada); Nauch8ape8ith dit le Saumonnier, chief of (tribal name not readable, per Fr. Tanguay); and Jean Baptiste Pipouikih, An Abnakiois captain, to meet before the Conseil Souverain to answer for the said Robert Haché and to be formally advised that the penalty for the crime of rape was hanging and strangling..." (5) Father Cyprien Tanguay's, A travers les regis!
tres, Translated by Armand H. Demers, Jr, Searching Through The Old Records of New France, Quintin Publications, 1999, p. 57.
While passing through the Ile d'Orlenas, the American Indian Robert Hache attacked and raped the beautiful Marie Marthe Gendron, in the spring of 1664. According to French law he deserved to be put to death, but under American Indian law only murder merited death in the white man's court. The indian chiefs Algonquin, Abenaquis and Iroquois were summoned and in short the case was pushed into the background and while more important things of the day were considered. The captured rapist was thrown into jail in Quebec, he managed to excape. Justice lost face and the Gendrons were humiliated and distressed.





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