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From: "Flora_MI" <>
Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Julius Beske
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:40:08 -0400
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I'm not sure if anyone else came over with him. He is the only one
listed on that ship. I did notice that the name above his stated that
he was going to MO to and they were near the same age. I thought
friend maybe? But haven't made any connection there. In one of the
letters the mother stated that a Hermann sent some money back, but
don't know if it's a brother or not. I did find a Herman Beske in Cook
county and have been trying to figure out if there is a connection or
not. I've read (I think it was on this list) that if you could find
the record in Germany where he applied to leave, it might have
information on that paper. Would I check with Bremen? As far as the
marriage, I only have found the index and it doesn't say where they
were married. I do know that they were protestant. I'm going to see if
there is a website for LaSalle county now.
But other than that, you have given me some more suggestions that I
can look into.
Thanks for your help.
Flora.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ursula B Adamson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Julius Beske


> Flora,
> Right, that's exactly what I have been able to find on him. He
> states on the passenger list that he's a bookseller with destination
> Missouri - I suppose he never got there. Why Missouri? Did someone
> else from the family immigrate to MO?
> Were they married in a church in LaSalle? Have you considered
> checking the church records there? Asssuming that his wife lived in
> LaSalle at the time of or prior to their marriage, she [or her
> parents] may have assisted on a church wedding, in which case - and
> if they were German Evangelical or Lutheran - there would be an
> entry in the local records of that church. German pastors in
> America kept similar records as those of their German counterparts -
> often recording the place of birth of marrying couples. I have
> translated countless German/American church records finding exactly
> such information.
>
> With Julius having died so soon after arrival and the absence of the
> 1890 federal census, makes for a very short paper trail. My other
> suggestion would be to check the obituaries - possibly in a German
> newspaper in Chicago - I know, that's probably a stretch given that
> he died in Cook county.
> What work did he do in America?
> Do you know whether he ever applied for citizenship?
> Have you checked the Chicago Voters Registration to find out where
> he lived in 1890/1900?
> I'm just throwing out a few sources to check.
>
> Ursula
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flora_MI" <>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:33:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
> Central
> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Julius Beske
>
> Hi Ursula, Julius was b 1861 immigrated from Prussia on the ship
> Wesser departed Bremen arrived Baltimore May 1883.
> The first time I find him is his marriage license in LaSalle County,
> IL on 8 Aug 1886 d 13 Dec 1919 in cook county. I only found him on
> the
> 1910 census as a widower in a rooming house. I know that I my
> grandmother was born in cook county 1887.
> I have about 6 letters from my grandmother's estate and the info I
> have in my post were taken from those letters. I do have one full
> name
> from a letter date 14 Feb 1948 from a Mrs Liselott Trunt-Muscheid
> at
> 24a Hamburg 21. Germany. Fahrstr.23a .... I have not be able to
> follow
> up on the name or address. Oh, it does start out as Dear cousin...
> so
> I think I can safely assume that it is a cousin. lol
>
> About the river sieg, I had suspected that the river was in
> Westphalia, but had assumed that the family only kept in contact
> with
> the Beske side of the family. My great grandmother was from
> Westphalia, so that card must pertain to her family.
> Thanks
> Flora in Michigan USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ursula B Adamson" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Julius Beske
>
>
>> Hello Flora,
>> Can you elaborate a bit more on Julius, such as DOB, date of
>> immigration, name of his wife, and residence in 1900?
>>
>> Ursula
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Flora_MI" <>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:31:31 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
>> Central
>> Subject: [G-P-L] Julius Beske
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am still looking for the place of birth of my great grandfather
>> Julius Beske. The information that I have been able to put together
>> so
>> far is:
>>
>> 1. His marriage license in Peru Il states that he is from Carliss
>> 2. His children were in an orphanage in Chicago states that he is
>> from
>> Collis
>> 3. In the private translated letters they talk about how he were to
>> come back he wouldn't recognize Kallie
>> 4. In the 1910 letter they talk of a sister Louise who lives in
>> Arnswalde. She is married with some children. The letter also
>> states
>> that mother lives with Bertha who is married to Johann. I assume
>> that
>> Bertha is a sister to Julius.
>> 5. In the 1923 letter Pa's brother's children (Pa being Julius I
>> believe) are:
>> Anna b abt 1878 married with 5 children
>> Herman b abt 1881 married 3 children
>> John b abt 1883 married 2 children
>> Carl b abt 1885 married 3 children
>> Bertha no age given... married for 3 yrs, no children
>> Fritz b abt 1902 not married
>> Pa's brother b abt 1857
>>
>> 6. I have a drawing of Grandmother's house and on it is the drawing
>> of
>> the "river sieg". Does anyone know where the river sieg is
>> located???
>>
>> I have found that there is a Collis in Gera. Thuringa. Germany
>> There is a Kallies county/kreis Dramburg in what is now known as
>> Kalisz Poland
>>
>> I know that this is a lot of information, but I'm trying to put it
>> all
>> together to see what it all means Hoping that the information may
>> have
>> clues as to where to look for Julius Beske came from.
>>
>> Flora from Michigan
>> Looking for Nolde/Nolte... Beske
>>
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