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Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Off Subject But Genealogy Related
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:08:37 -0400 (EDT)


Spelled or pronounced ?

The old (1600) Ei ch ner the newer (1700 & Today) Eu ch ner many time gets
pronounced UCKNER and the verbal being translated to paper as Hubner and
Uker --

H is and isn't based on heard - pronounced and/or written based on where
and when - so go search all the passable scenario's -





In a message dated 10/20/2011 2:25:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
writes:



There is a road named after a family surname who settled in Macomb Twp.
MI.

Thilch= changed to and pronounced TILK.

Just to add my 2 cents.

Phil

Kuehn



----- Original Message -----


From: "Brigitte Jahnke" <>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:42:46 PM
Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Off Subject But Genealogy Related

Hi Bobbi,

you are right, the "h" in Witthen is not pronounced, it is an old way of
spelling, today still in use in a word like "Thron" (throne), and in
many family names such as Theissing, Thiede, Theuerkauf, Bothe,
Nathmann, etc., or maybe in the name of the river Warthe. People bought
"Thee/Tee/tea" and "thun/tun/ to do" was written in a way that today is
rather strange to most Germans.
The "h" never was pronounced, it has been called the "begleitende h/
collateral h". Most of these collateral "h" have been dropped since a
reform of German Ortography in 1901.
After that reform some families changed the spelling of their names,
others didn't.

The unpronounced "h" in Christoffer or Christina is something different.

Brigitte


Am 20.10.2011 20:20, schrieb Bobbi:
> Hi Ursula,
>
> I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. It is quite possible for
names
> to have an "h" in it that is not pronounced.
>
> My grandmother's maiden name is Theussert. And that is the way it is
> written in the German records. Also think of the name Christof or
> Christian. They are also spelled with the letter "h".
>
> Bobbi
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ursula"
> To:<>
> Sent: 20 October, 2011 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Off Subject But Genealogy Related
>
>
>> Karl,
>>
>> unlike in the English language, in the German any words are pronounced
the
>> way they are spelled, by that I mean to say that
>> the name "Whitten" would first of all not be spelled with an "h" and
would
>> be pronounced to rhyme with "written", without the "r" of course.
>>
>> That said, if your ggrandma's maiden name was pronounced to rhyme with
>> "Whiting" then the German derivative could have been spelled as
>> "Weiting" [rymes with "writing"], or "Weiding" [rhymes with "siding"].
>>
>> Let's see what Vera can come up with.
>>
>> Ursula
>
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