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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:36:45 EDT

Hello, again, to the MERRICK, MYRICK, and THORPE lists and adding on the SMYTHE/SMITH, HARRIS, GREEN, GRAY/GREY, THROCKMORTON, and FOSTER lists in this hunt for information on connected families of England with some immigrants to Virginia, Bellinda MYRICK-BARNETT, MERRICK List Administrator, here again. Looking on the internet for more information on the THORPE family of the 1st Timothy THORPE in Virginia, I found the following. Is the Timothy THORPE shown below as being born in 1664 in Middlesex, England the one that immigrated to Isle of Wight County/Surry County, Virginia? Here in this information first regarding the SMYTHE - Lord BERKELEY info out of Gloucestershire, England, (the HARRIS family that married into the MERRICK/MYRICK and THORPE families of Isle of Wight County, Virginia,) and then followed by information regarding part of the THORPE family out of Middlesex, England into Isle of Wight County, Virginia. (Sir) Thomas SMYTHE, (Knight,) of Fenchurch Street, son of (Sir) Thomas "Customer" SMYTHE and Alice JUDDE, (as shown below,) had family that married into the HARRIS family of Isle of Wight County, Va that, also, married into some of the aforementioned families. Again, interested in any other information regarding connections between these families and connecting with the MEURIG - MEURIC - MERRICK - MEYRICK - MIRICK - MYRICK families in Wales, England, New England, and Virginia with special concentration right now on the branch(es) in Virginia. Please take a look at the following and, if you will, let me/the list(s) know of any connecting information, corrections, etc. that you might have. Specifically, we are trying to find more information on the (Sir) John MERRICK who was with the Virginia Company of London and involved in the Charters in and after 1620 and was in Jamestowne/Isle of Wight County, Virginia area. The TROGMORTON/THROCKMORTON and other families are not excessively mentioned herein but do relate greatly to these other families and we are most interested in various connections. Thank you. Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick-Barnett << The details in this biography come from the _History of Parliament_ (http://www.history.ac.uk/hop) , a biographical dictionary of Members of the House of Commons. Born ABT 1558, third, but second surviving son of Thomas Smythe of Westenhanger, Kent by Alice, dau. of _Sir Andrew Judde_ (http:// www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/AndrewJudde.htm) ; brother of John and Richard. Educ. Merchant Taylors’ 1571. He married first Judith Culverwell, dau. and heiress of Richard Culverwell, s.p.; secondly Joan Hobbs, dau. and heiress of William Hobbs, s.p.; and thirdly Sarah Blount, dau. and heiress of William Blount, by whom he had three sons and one daughter. Sarah remarried _Robert Sidney, 1nd Earl of Leicester_ (http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/RobertSidney(1ELeicester).htm) . Kntd. 13 May 1603. Freeman, Skinners’ Co. by 1580, Haberdashers’ Co. by 1580, master, Haberdashers’ 1599-1600; customer of London, auditor 1597-8, alderman 1599-1601, sheriff Nov 1600-Feb. 1601; capt. of city trained bands; treasurer, St. Bartholomew's hosp. 1597-1601; trade commr. to negotiate with the Dutch 1596, 1598, 1619, with the Empire 1603; member of Merchant Adventurers; gov. Muscovy Co. by 1600; member of Levant Co., gov. by 1600; gov. E.I. Co. 1600-1, 1603-5, 1607-21; gov. North West Passage Co.; treasurer, Virginia Co. 1609-19; gov. of Somers Is. Co. 1615-d.; Ambassador to Russia 1604-5; jt. receiver of duchy of Cornwall Apr 1604; receiver for Dorset and Somerset May 1604; commr. for navy reform 1619. In 1588, he lent £31,000 to _Queen Elizabeth_ (http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/aboutElizabeth.htm) and raised the necessary funds for her to finance the English fleet which would destroy the _Spanish Armada_ (http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Documents/defeat_of_the_armada.htm) .>> _http://www.godrules.net/library/anderson/275anderson2.htm_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/anderson/275anderson2.htm) << (http://www.godrules.net/neurosemantics.html) BOOK 1. - REIGN OF HENRY THE EIGHTH. << Smythe, the factor of _Lord_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1192.htm) Berkeley, resident in the old manor _house_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic964.htm) of Nibley. The second _genealogy_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic804.htm) is founded upon a _deed_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic515.htm) under the _reign_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1552.htm) of Henry VIII., the _best_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic205.htm) of all evidence; while, so _far_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic697.htm) as the latter goes, and the _authority_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic133.htm) quoting it, there is a _perfect_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1395.htm) _agreement_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic50.htm) with the former as to the descents, viz.:- 1. Hugh Tyndale, _father_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic702.htm) of John, f. of _Thomas_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1879.htm) , f. of Richard, f. of Richard, f. of _Thomas_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1879.htm) . 2. _Thomas_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1879.htm) , f. of Richard, f. of Richard, f. of _Thomas_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1879.htm) . The first individual mentioned by Mr. Smythe, is said to be Hugh Tyndale, alias Huchens, the name which, for a _season_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1679.htm) , the _family_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic694.htm) had _adopted_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic3 2.htm) . This is confirmed by Tyndale himself, who, in his first publication, gave both names-“William Tyndale, otherwise called Hitchins,”-though ever after, he used only the former. Whether John Tyndale ever resumed the name without the alias, we have no evidence; but to a certainty _Thomas_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1879.htm) did, and, after his example, so did our Translator. “Some of his ancestors,” says Bigland, “having taken an active part in the Lancastrian cause, migrated to Stinch-combe, in this county; and, as it appears from the Register of North Nibley, bore, for concealment, the name of Hutchins or Hitchins, but resumed their own in the _reign_ (http://www.godrules.net/library/topics/topic1552.htm) of Henry the Seventh.” f12 But why should the neighbouring parish of North Nibley be introduced? >> _http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18541_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18541) It shows this Timothy THORPE, born: 1664 in Middlesex, England as being the son of Dorothy May FENN and Thomas THORPE, son of Joseph THORPE, son of Thomas THORPE, son of Rebecca GREENE and John THORPE, son of Thomas THORPE, son of Mary WIKES and Nicholas THORPE, son of Margaret THROCKMORTON and Thomas THORPE, as shown further below. Questions: Does Margaret THROCKMORTON's family connect with the THROCKMORTONs that were of Berkeley Hundred with (Sir) George THORPE and is there a family connection from (Sir) George THORPE of Gloucestershire, England to this THORPE family of Middlesex, England. Also, does anyone know if the GREENE family here in any way connects to the GREEN(E) - GRAY - FOSTER group that married into the Owen MERRICK/MYRICK, Sr. family with his 2nd marriage to Mrs. Mary GREEN(E)?/FOSTER? GRAY(E)/GREY(E,) (her mother was either the GREEN(E) or the FOSTER and she was the other,) (widow of (Sir) John GRAY(E)/GREY(E.) Also, the MERRICK/MYRICK family group that descends from (Captain) Meurig ap Llwellyn of Wales is related to Henry VIII, (King of England,) through Meurig who was, also, Captain of the Guard for his cousin's coronation. ID: I18588 Name: *Thomas Thorpe Sex: M Marriage 1 _*Margaret Throckmorton_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18589) Children 1. _*Nicholas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18586) ID: I18586 Name: *Nicholas Thorpe Sex: M Father: _*Thomas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18588) Mother: _*Margaret Throckmorton_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18589) Marriage 1 _*Mary Wikes_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18587) Children 1. _*John Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18584) ID: I18584 Name: *John Thorpe Sex: M Death: in Middlesex, England Father: _*Nicholas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18586) Mother: _*Mary Wikes_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18587) Marriage 1 _*Rebecca Greene_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18585) * Married: 15 Sep 1592 in Parish of St. Martins-in-the-Fields, Middlesex, England Children 1. _Elizabeth Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18590) 2. _Maria Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18592) 3. _Rebecca Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18593) 4. _Katherine Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18594) 5. _William Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18595) 6. _*Thomas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18581) b: 1598 in Middlesex, England ID: I18581 Name: *Thomas Thorpe Sex: M Birth: 1598 in Middlesex, England Father: _*John Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18584) Mother: _*Rebecca Greene_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18585) Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Children 1. _Richard Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18582) 2. _*Joseph Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18575) b: 1635 in Middlesex, England 3. _Thomas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18583) b: 1645 ID: I18575 Name: *Joseph Thorpe Sex: M Birth: 1635 in Middlesex, England Death: 1726 in Surry Co., VA Father: _*Thomas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18581) b: 1598 in Middlesex, England Marriage 1 _*Dorothy Mary Fenn_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18576) b: 1640 * Married: ABT. 1660 Children 1. _Sarah Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18580) 2. _John Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18577) b: ABT. 1661 3. _*Timothy Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18541) b: ABT. 1664 in Middlesex, England 4. _Thomas Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18578) b: ABT. 1664 5. _William Thorpe_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fletcht2001&id=I18579) b: ABT. 1669

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