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Subject: an indian in the woodpile?
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:38:42 EST
. This is lengthy-but to explain the problem of finding 'indian' ancestry
is a large one--about on the level, of finding a needle in a haystack as big
To prove up a legend of Charlie's family, "One of his grandmothers or great
grandmothers had native american cherokee blood lines. To check on this I
needed to follow the lineages of the female lines, that means:
1 Eady( Morgan) gullett (born march 1802), wife of reese gullett,
(charlies' ) great grandmother and father. (documents we have marriage
record, bible birth records, death records out of nat archives-military
papers-we have census images 1840-1850-1860 tennessee)
2. Also, it means his paternal grandmother: Nancy (MARSH) Gullett wife of
William thomas Gullett, (we have papers of marriage, and deaths and lists of
children and bible records-copies from nat archives-also census images-wilson
co. tn 1880)
3. and his grandmother,( who was the mother of Tennessee Rachael Taylor
Gullett- census images and marriage records documented)-who was known as:
Sarah Elender (ellen) Carline Angeline (Nicknamed Pennyless) PACK. (this name
came from Belle Forest Sumpter Gullett in 1962)..I can only prove this
woman's name was sarah Ellen or Ellender--the marriage record gives only S.E.
census has her as Angeline or Amanda--unreadable--ink blot right on the
name--the angeline or amanda is the transcribers best guess...the angeline
matches belle gulletts legend of the name--but is circumstancial .(I have not
found probate or court records on this family yet)
4. And also the mother of james andrew taylor (tennessee rachaels father)
who is also charlies grandmother: named: unknown-lived in tennessee.(father
unknown also) .
The legend from Belle Gullett (Charlie haskells sister in law)--is that
tennessee rachael taylor gulletts father was called "sam". His name on the
marriage is James A. Gullett. But I have been told that nick names were more
than common in tennessee. Rachaels name is NOT a nickname as on her death
certificate from okla. it is listed as : Tennessee (first name) Rachael
(initial or second name) Gullett.
Father: J.A. Taylor, Mother: Sarah Ellen Taylor
"I have looked at the National Archive search on digital images and have
found the following people:
DAWES ROLL (approved) Nina M. Gullett Cherokee, # 4736 residence not listed
on the index.
Guion Roll: #35995 Lizzie (elizabeth?)Gullett, KY
#35996 Walter Gullett, KY
#30934 Bessie L. Gullett, Alabama
#41001 Anna M. Gullett, Indiana
also: 5 spelled Gulley, one gulleck, one gullick, one gulliot, one
gullion.(none of these people are children of eady morgan gullett-but they
could be gullett children of reeses siblings? possible brothers? WE DO NOT
KNOW THE NAME OF REESES MOTHER--OR HER MAIDEN NAME-HIS FATHER WAS ALSO NAMED
REESE AND WE DO NOT KNOW HIS WIFE'S NAME. (these people were in NC, SC and
Virginia before the line went to tennessee with reese (junior) and eady
# 32997 Mary TAYLOR MARSH, tennessee (this one looked good)
#37032, 4396, William and Rosa Marsh-both living in Indian
Territory. (note: all the other Marsh names were in NC. KY, Ohio, Nebraska,
Ark, georgia, and one sallie marsh in okla.#33187.
Its a turkey shoot to know which one? The logical way is to start with the
state where your people were from? send for those applications and go from
there if you get a trail to follow?
there were 25 MORGAN individuals who applied for claims, I counted only those
living in Tennessee--?
*again, the Morgan people married into the gullett line with EADY MORGAN in
Bledsoe county TN. in 1832. Eady is NOT listed as an applicant under Gullett
name or Morgan name-
* there was an elizabeth Morgan # 10998 and a Martha E. (eady?) Morgan #19113
(possible sister, or niece? cousin? unknown. For the name to be listed
Morgan, Marsh or Taylor? we are looking for sisters, mother, cousins or
nieces if female. IF male we look for fathers, brothers, sons, uncles,
In Tennessee alone, in census records--any year from 1850 to present, there
are hundreds of people named Taylor!Pack!Morgan! and Marsh!-but Taylor leads
the list. I did a name search just on PACK marriages and came up with over
300 in years from 1851 to 1880 (possibly two generations) just in Dekalb co.
So, there is much work to do--as it becomes a process of elimination without
knowledge of which family(woman?) we are tracking.
To claim Native American ancestry-the family must be listed on one of these
two rolls OR have legal documents to show descent from an earlier-RECORDED
native american person. (to explain the latter:
the fur trade flourished in early america and many of the traders, hunters,
fort managers, drivers, all men who were in the wilderness--most all of them,
took native american women as their wives or just as their consorts.
Remember, almost without exception ALL had white wives and familys back in
the civilized towns. Early trade papers-and court documents sometime name
children or wives-but these native women were not acceptable to polite or
gentle company and their offspring many times just did NOT become heirs of
their father's property or even his name!. The fact was not hidden-it was
accepted that men could not be expected to live without females in their home
or home away from home. The women were not given any rights, legally or
socially. This was the way the legal wives were treated also. Wives belonged
to the husband and he had the control. Well, if a person was lucky enough to
find a union with one of these early men-who documented their children and
women--AND you could connect to them with other documents?then you might have
a chance of claim for american native ancestry--however, the generations pass
mathmatically and the blood issue becomes almost nothing.
To explain the Guion and Dawes rolls: see data below--its going to take a lot
of looking. The data below is a start. I have copied all taylors, manners,
marsh, morgans and pack people in census in dekalb, wilson and bledsoe
counties--so, I have already looked up these names--I did not find them in
census in the counties where your people mostly were--but that only means
they were in other counties. I have not checked them all. We could spend
our lives looking for this--and then find nothing proven. My daughter and I
are going to a genealogy confrence in pasadena on friday feb 28 and all the
below books will be there-as well as people to help look--and answer
questions. WE will look for the indian mother...maybe we will get lucky. I
know this sounds negative--and I have to be truthful and say-just because the
names are on the 'rolls' does not mean they were accepted or kin? But it is a
starting place and all the dawes rolls have been digitalized and are on line
at the NRA, washington DC. as well as in books--which I can check easily with
index at the convention.
The below books and sources are your best bet to start with. I will continue
working on this-I also work on all melvins people and on all my own people,
also. I hope I have not confused you completely. let me know if you have
questions. always,( your cousin, melvin ) and judy grimes.-scroll down
Family Historian Books has an 800 number... 1-(800) 535-0118. If you plan do
spend *any* time doing Cherokee research, I strongly recommend buying and
reading Gormley's book from cover to cover!
Gormley, Myra Vanderpool. Cherokee Connections: An Introduction to
Genealogical Sources pertaining to Cherokee Ancestors. Tacoma, WA (207 S.
119th St., 98444): Family Historian Books, 1995. ISBN 1886952553.
U.S. Dept. of Interior. Bureau of Indian Affairs. Answers To Your Questions
About American Indians. Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office,
1970. Stock no. 2402-00030.
Mooney, Thomas G. Exploring Your Cherokee Ancestry: A Basic Genealogical
Research Guide. Tahlequah, OK: Cherokee National Historical Society, 1987.
LCCN: 91- 139625. 58 p. Available from the Cherokee Museum.
The microfilm produced by the National Archives can be purchased at $23.00 or
$10.00 per roll (depending on the roll). The microfilm is also available from
the American Lending Library (P.O. Box 244, Bountiful, UT 84010), at the
Family History Centers, (LDS) and at some large libraries.
For citizenship in the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, you must prove direct
descent from the Dawes Commission Rolls. For the Eastern Band of Cherokee,
you must prove descent from the Baker Rolls. Both sets of rolls had residency
requirements, which is why many people won't find their ancestors in them.
Blankenship, Bob. Dawes Roll "Plus" of Cherokee Nation "1898." Cherokee, NC
(P.O. Box 525, 28719, (704) 497-9709): Cherokee Roots, . ISBN
096337434. 216 p. Alphabetical order by surname. Includes accepted, but not
rejected rolls. United States. Commission to the Five Civilized Tribes. Final
Rolls of Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian
Territory, (As Approved by the Secretary of the Interior on or Before March
4, 1907, With Supplements Dated September 25, 1914) [Also Known as Dawes
Commission Rolls]. Washington, DC: National Archives, 1961. 3 reels of 35 mm.
microfilm. Series: National Archives Microfilm Publications, T529. Contents:
Reel 1. Choctaw and Chickasaw Rolls -- Reel 2. Cherokee Rolls -- Reel 3.
Creek and Seminole Rolls. United States. Commission to the Five Civilized
Tribes. Enrollment Cards of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914. [Also known
as Dawes Commission Rolls Enrollment Packets]. Series: National Archives
microfilm publications ; M1186, rolls 2-93. Washington: National Archives,
National Archives and Records Service, General Services Administration. 92
microfilm reels. Partial Contents: Cherokee by Blood [approved] (rolls 2- 15)
-- Cherokee Minors by Blood [approved] (rolls 16-18) -- Cherokee Minors
[approved] (rolls 19-21) -- Delaware [approved] (roll 22) -- Cherokee by
Marriage [approved] (rolls 22-23) -- Cherokee Freedmen [approved] (rolls
23-26) -- Cherokee Freedmen Minors [approved] (rolls 26-27) -- Cherokee
[doubtful/rejected] (rolls 27-32) -- Cherokee Freedmen [doubtful/rejected]
(rolls 33-38) -- Choctaw (rolls 39-66) -- Chickasaws (rolls 67-76) -- Creek
(rolls 77-91) -- Seminole (rolls 92-93). Blankenship, Bob. Cherokee Roots.
2nd ed. Cherokee, NC: B. Blankenship, 1992. 2 v. Contents: v. 1. Eastern
Cherokee Rolls (includes: 1817 Reservation Rolls, 1817-1835 Emigration Roll,
1835 Henderson Roll, 1848 Mullay Roll, 1851 Siler Roll, 1852 Chapman Roll,
1869 Swetland Roll, 1883 Hester Roll, 1908 Churchill Roll, 1909 Guion Miller
East, 1924 Baker Roll, Enrollment Procedures of Eastern Band) -- v. 2.
Western Cherokee Rolls (includes: 1851 Old Settler Roll, 1852 Drennen Roll by
Family Name, 1898-1914 Combination Dawes and Guion Miller Rolls, Enrollment
Procedures of the Cherokee Nation). United States. [Baker Roll. Eastern
Cherokees in North Carolina]. Series: National Archives microfilm
publications; A-35. Washington: National Archives, National Archives and
Records Service, General Services Administration. [1?] microfilm reel.
The Guion Miller Rolls is an important roll to search as many people who were
not eligible for the Dawes Commission or Baker Rolls, were eligible for the
Guion Miller Rolls. Finding one's direct ancestor in this roll will *not*
make one eligible for tribal membership in the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma or
Eastern Band of Cherokee. United States Court of Claims.
General Index to Eastern Cherokee Applications [of the U.S. Court of Claims,
1906-1909], vols. 1 and 2, Application numbers 1-145. Series: National
Archives Microfilm Publication; M1104, rolls 1. Washington: National
Archives, National Archives and Records Service, General Services
Administration. 1 microfilm reel. Blankenship, Bob. Guion Miller Roll "Plus"
of Eastern Cherokee. Cherokee, NC (P.O. Box 525, 28719, (704) 497-9709):
Cherokee Roots, . ISBN 096337442. 216 p.
Alphabetical order by surname. Includes accepted and rejected rolls. Jordan,
Jerry Wright. Cherokee by Blood: Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the
U.S. Court of Claims, 1906-1910. v.1-<8>. Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, 1987-.
Contents: v. 1. Applications 1 to 1550 -- v. 2. Applications 1551 to 4200 --
v. 3. Applications 4201 to 7250 -- v. 4. Applications 7251 to 10170 -- v. 5.
Applications 10171 to 13260 -- v. 6. Applications 13261 to 16745 -- v. 7.
Applications 16746 to 20100 -- v. 8. Applications 20101 to 23800. Note that
this title is projected to have more volumes.
United States Court of Claims. Eastern Cherokee Applications of the U.S.
Court of Claims, 1906-1909. Series: National Archives Microfilm Publication;
M1104, rolls 1-348. Washington: National Archives, National Archives and
Records Service, General Services Administration. 348 microfilm reels. For
other rolls see: Name: American Indians [National Archives Microfilm Catalog]
URL: http://gopher.nara.gov:70/0/about/publ/micro/amind/amind4.txt (note this
site is linked on the home page) United States. National Archives and Records
American Indians: A Select Catalog of National Archives Microfilm
Publications. Series: Select Catalogs of National Archives Microfilm
Publications. Washington, DC: National Archives Trust Fund Board. National
Archives and Records Administration, 1984.
Other groups among the Cherokee: Walton-Raji, Angela Y. Black Indian
Genealogy Research : African American Ancestors Among the Five Civilized
Tribes. Bowie, MD (1540-E Pointer Ridge Place, 20716): Heritage Books, Inc.,
1993. ISBN 1556138563. Prevost, Toni Jollay. The Delaware & Shawnee Admitted
to Cherokee Citizenship and the Related Wyandotte & Moravian Delaware. Bowie,
MD (1540-E Pointer Ridge Place, 20716): Heritage Books, 1993. ISBN
1556137613.  p. Not indexed. To prove Cherokee lineage, it is vital to
practice good documentation and to know something of how to do genealogy...
Stevenson, Noel C. Genealogical Evidence: A Guide to the Standard of Proof
Relating to Pedigrees, Ancestry, Heirship, and Family History. Rev. ed.
Laguna Hills, CA (P.O. Box 2837, 92654): Aegean Park Press, 1989. ISBN
089412160X; 0894121596 (pbk.).  p. Indexed. Eakle, Arlene; and Cerny,
Johni. The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy. Salt Lake City, UT:
Ancestry Publishing Co., 1984. LC 84-70206; ISBN 0916489000. 786 p. Indexed.