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From: "BBFFRRPP" <>
Subject: [GM-L] Street Map, Cambridge, 1700's ?? (KIDDER, MOORE)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:02:28 -0500
I have received information from the Cambridge Historical Society, which is
two pages Xeroxed out of the "History of Cambridge" by PAIGE.
It is information on the KIDDER's and MOORE's in the 1600's and 1700's.
I asked for this information to find out where the so-called "MOORE Mansion"
was in the 1600's. It was originally owned by Francis MOORE, Sr., or
Francis MOORE, Jr., and went to the grandson, (Deacon) Samuel KIDDER.
(My notes only refer to a James in Boston and a James in Salem.)
**My specific question is: Where was the intersection of Spruce St. and
Cedar St. in the 1700's and early 1800's? **
The "KIDDER book" refers to the mansion .. "Samuel KIDDER appears to have
lived in his youth with an uncle, Francis MOORE, from whom he is said to
have acquired by gift the Moore mansion and farm in Cambridge, erected if
tradition is to be trusted, by James MOORE in 1660. It stood near the
corner of Main and Spruce streets, then Kidder's Lane, about opposite Cedar
Street." (My notes only refer to a James MOORE in Boston and a
James MOORE in Salem.)
I have a street-map from the 1960's, and there is no intersection "of
Spruce and Cedar." Cedar St. is off of Mass. Ave. on the way to
Arlington, and Spruce St. is near the Belmont / Watertown line and near
(I had read someplace else that the MOORE Mansion was near Fresh Pond, but I
believe that Main St. was the former name of Mass. Ave., so that would put
it .. off of Mass. Ave.)
Also, on these pages from the Cambridge book, I read new information on the
MOORE's. A summary is that:
John MOORE arrived in 1636 (Age ??) (was adult)
Enoch MOORE arrived in 1637 (Age ??) (was adult)
Francis MOORE arrived in 1638 (Age ~52)
Golden MOORE arrived by 1642 (Age ~32?)
These MOORE men all arrived in Cambridge within a few years of each other,
and I wonder whether they could have been related. LDS records show that
Francis did have an older brother, Enoch MOORE, and a brother, Samuel MOORE
(who reportedly remained in England). Was the Enoch MOORE in Cambridge
possibly Francis' brother? And, could they have possibly had a brother,
John MOORE? ... Also, it is possible for Golden MOORE to have been a son
of Francis, through his first wife in England (unknown name).
Golden is listed in other places as a son of Francis. Also, this book
lists the children of Francis as: Francis, Samuel, Thomas, Anna, Sarah,
(This Samuel was said to have gone to the Barbadoes, and this John was said
to have married Sarah HODGES in 1653.)
(However, there is definite information showing that two sons of Francis,
Samuel and Matthew MOORE, moved from Newbury, MA, to Woodbridge, NJ.)
There was another set of MOORE brothers (Francis and Richard) who arrived in
Cambridge about 1710 and also lived in the Newtowne ("Harvard Square") area.
(Is there any possibility that the MOORE's in early Salem, MA, were related
to the MOORE's in early Cambridge, MA??)
Another "hint" is that another "History of Cambridge" refers to the home of
"Deacon MOORE" (Josiah MOORE??) on the corner of Garden and Mason Streets
just after 1800, which is referred to as the home of Golden MOORE in the
1600's. (My notes say there was a Josiah MOORE in MA who was born
~1630 in England.) (son of Francis??)
(Book also refers to "the Deacon KIDDER House" which is seems to have been
on Church Street where the First Parish Church now stands. ???)
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
My newer saying:
I like to take walks in the woods,
but I can't see the forest for the family-tree !
"There are two lasting bequests we can give our children;
one is roots, the other is wings."
Hodding Carter, Jr.
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