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From: Bernard Jackson <>
Subject: Re: GenMassachusetts-D Digest V04 #110
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:09:18 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <200404251000.i3PA0BOW006900@lists5.rootsweb.com>


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GenMassachusetts-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 110

Today's Topics:
#1 Groton, Middlesex Co.,MA, births ["Jane Devlin" #2 (Fwd) Request for permission to po ["George Waller" #3 ,,,Ashland .. 1880 BOOT SHOP? (RIC ["BBFFRRPP" ]
#4 Re: [GM-L] ,,,Ashland .. 1880 BOOT ["Dale H. Cook" ]
#5 Understanding a Salem probate pape ["Jan" ]
#6 Re: [GM-L] Understanding a Salem p ["Dale H. Cook" ]

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:21:41 -0400
From: "Jane Devlin"
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Subject: Groton, Middlesex Co.,MA, births

The following file is now available at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

Groton, Middlesex Co., MA - Vital Records to 1849, TAINTER to YOUNG, &
NEGROS [courtesy of Coralynn Brown]

Jane Devlin
Lake Orion, MI
DUNHAM - WILCOX - TROTT - KIRK
over 1500 data files from CT, MA, RI, NJ, NY & MI

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:35:31 -0400
From: "George Waller"
To:
Subject: (Fwd) Request for permission to post announcement of PENACOOK

FYI
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From: "Karima"
To:
Subject: Request for permission to post announcement of PENACOOK List
Date sent: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:33:00 -0500

Good Morning,

I am writing to ask if you will be so kind as to post the following
announcement regarding a new mailing list for PENACOOK Native
American research, on your mailing list.

Thank you for your consideration.

Karima

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:10:27 -0400
From: "BBFFRRPP"
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Subject: ,,,Ashland .. 1880 BOOT SHOP? (RICE)

Hello,

While continuing to look for RICE information in Ashland in the 1870 to 1920
timeframe, I went to the LDS web site and looked at the 1880 Census for
RICE in MA. I found about three RICE "households" in Ashland.
One of them was an Aaron RICE family (there since 1850), and they had three
men in their 20's who were from Maine living in their household. Two of
the men, plus Aaron, all worked "in Boot Shop."

I decided to look at the other "households" in Ashland in 1880, and I made
an interesting discovery. In almost every home, at least one member of
the household .. "worked in Boot Shop."

I was wondering if anyone knew the name of this Boot Shop, and could offer a
brief history of it. I tried a Google search and didn't spot any
information.

I also noticed that several of the households had about three men in their
20's who were from Maine .. living there, and .. working in Boot Shop.
This makes me wonder whether it was a very large manufacturing plant, and
did the owner of the plant possibly advertise in Maine .. for workers.

I found this web site which offered a "narrative" on early Ashland.

http://www.state.ma.us/dhcd/iprofile/014.pdf

But it only mentions: "The Town of Ashland's ideal location midway
between Boston and Worcester.... .. Ashland was, in earlier times,
a stopping point on a major Indian trail which later became known as the Bay
Path, connecting Cambridge and Connecticut.

It was here that a community of Natick Indians was established as the
Village of Magunkaquog in about 1659. ........"

.. In regards to the "Boot Shop" is that a company which still exists?
Was it a large building which is now a Museum? Or, is the building ..
long gone?

..I'm still looking to find out when Charles W. RICE (b1850 ME) lived in
Ashland. He might have come down from Maine in 1870 and lived there for a
few years until he married there (?) in 1875. After he and his wife,
Adelaide, probably moved back to her family's home in Winchester, MA.
I say this, because, reportedly, their daughter, Louise RICE, was born in
Winchester in 1876, and their daughter, Edith, was born there in 1878.

When the girls were around Age 20, their parents "separated." I don't know
whether they divorced. Adelaide and her daughters lived in Arlington; I
don't know where Charles went. But, he reportedly died in Ashland in
1916. (Was he the Charles RICE who lived in Ashland in 1910 and 1910?)

Thank you for your time.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

FYI: Charles W. RICE's wife's maiden name was:
Adelaide Crosby HUTCHINSON.
She was a member of the HUTCHINSON families
which had been in Winchester (first Charlestown)
from 1600's on. There were two farms, and one
of them didn't leave family hands until the 1960's.










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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:14:57 -0400
From: "Dale H. Cook"
To:
Subject: Re: [GM-L] ,,,Ashland .. 1880 BOOT SHOP? (RICE)

At 01:10 PM 4/24/2004, Betty wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone knew the name of this Boot Shop, and could offer a
>brief history of it.

Betty -

It is hard to say which factory that might have been. In the late 19th
century there were several boot and shoe factories in Ashland. See the
section about the town from Elias Nason and George J. Varney, "A Gazetteer
of the State of Massachusetts" (Boston: B.B. Russell. 1890):

http://www.capecodhistory.us/Mass1890/Ashland1890.htm

Dale H. Cook; Research Member, NEHGS; Member, Mass. Soc. Mayf. Desc.
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/oldcolony.shtml

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:50:11 -0700
From: "Jan"
To:
Subject: Understanding a Salem probate paper....

I have a probate paper from Salem and would be very grateful if someone could help me intrepret it.

When General John Glover's father died in Salem, the probate paper lists him and his three brothers by name, calling them "Salem minors."
The next line has this information:
1737, Sept. 11 Letter gdp. (Bonds on file)

I'm most curious about "gdp." Does that mean a guardian was chosen for the boys? If so, would a guardian have to post a bond for each boy and how would a bond work in a situation like this when the father died unexpectedly, not leaving a Will?

An author who wrote about General Glover stated that the boys' mother took her sons and moved to Marblehead after her husband died. I'd assumed she moved because she had family members there but would she have been forced to move there with her sons if that's where the guardian lived?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Best regards,

Jan

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:29:37 -0400
From: "Dale H. Cook"
To:
Subject: Re: [GM-L] Understanding a Salem probate paper....

At 04:50 PM 4/24/04, Jan wrote:

>1737, Sept. 11 Letter gdp. (Bonds on file)
>
>I'm most curious about "gdp." Does that mean a guardian was chosen for
>the boys?

Jan -

Yes - "Letter gdp." is "Letter of guardianship."

>If so, would a guardian have to post a bond for each boy and how would a
>bond work in a situation like this when the father died unexpectedly, not
>leaving a Will?

The bond was a warranty by the guardian that he would properly care for the
child. When the child reached majority, if, in the opinion of the court,
the guardian faithfully carried out his duty, the bond was refunded. If, at
any time before majority, the court judged the guardian to be derelict in
his duties, the bond was forfeit. A bond would have been posted for each child.

Just who was named guardian depended on circumstances. You seem to be
familiar with the case where a father names a guardian, but as this father
died intestate that would not be the case. It could be that the father had
discussed guardianship in the presence of others, and that testimony in
court established the father's wishes. It could be that the judge consulted
with family members and family friends to see who was willing and able to
act as guardian. Of course, once a child was 14 (in most places) he could
name his own guardian, with the consent of the court.

>An author who wrote about General Glover stated that the boys' mother took
>her sons and moved to Marblehead after her husband died. I'd assumed she
>moved because she had family members there but would she have been forced
>to move there with her sons if that's where the guardian lived?

Possibly - it could be both - a family member there might have been named
guardian. Do you have the entire probate file?

Dale H. Cook; Research Member, NEHGS; Member, Mass. Soc. Mayf. Desc.
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/oldcolony.shtml

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