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From: "Bonnie Weber" <>
Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sloop Hopewell, KIDDER, PHILLIPS, MILLER
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:36:46 -0400
I have been reading your info, and how is it possible that Mary died the
same time she was supposed to have married Richard Miller.
I did a little research of my own, and Richard left no male descendants.
(according to "New England Settlers 1600's-1800's.)
But their are several John Kidder's, claiming descent from James?
If Mary had just buried a child, did she have an immaculate conception, or
is all of this information, just, supposition, by the Kidder family?
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From: "Betty" <>
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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sloop Hopewell, KIDDER, PHILLIPS, MILLER
> Someone has asked me if I knew anything about the John KIDDER mentioned
> below, or about the "Sloop Hopewell" from the mid-1600's to the
> I notice that John was on the Sloop Hopewell in Sept. 1706, only a few
> months after his marriage. And, he died at sea on March 27, 1707
> (according to "History of Billerica.") But, his widow, Mrs. Mary
> (PHILLIPS) KIDDER, remarried to Richard MILLER. Does anyone know if
> Richard and Mary had children?
> And, I just posted a query on the Mariners List. I searched the
> of the Mariners List right now and the Sloop Hopewell has not been
> on that List for several years, and several years before that. I did a
> Google search and saw that the Sloop Hopewell has been mentioned on many
> Genealogy sites, and, from those mentions, it seems the ship / sloop was
> active from the mid-1600's to the mid-1700's. So, if the Sloop was
> active in the 1750's, then John "died at sea" probably because of disease,
> murder, or falling overboard, etc.
> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
> P.S. I'm just noticing that John and Mary's only child was born on
> 18, 1707, and died a week later, only 2 days before John died. So,
> Mary KIDDER lost both her husband and her baby within a few days.
> 10 JOHN KIDDER (James, James), of Billerica, Mass., born there 27 Jan.
> 1680/1; died at sea, probably late in 1707 or early in 1708. He married at
> Charlestown, Mass., 18 June 1706, MARY PHILLIPS,
> born there 3 Aug. 1684; died after 31 May 1708, daughter of Capt. Timothy
> and Mary (Foster) Phillips. She married secondly, RICHARD MILLER, a
> housewright of Charlestown.
> The "Boston News Letter" for Monday, 30 Sept. 1706, notes under "Cleared
> Outward," "John Kidder-sloop Hopewell (for) Jamaica." Administration of
> estate was granted to his "relict, Mary Kidder," 31 May 1708.
> Child:. MARY, b. 18 Mar. 1707; d. 25 Mar. 1707
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