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From: Cindi Broydrick <>
Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] GENMASSACHUSETTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 689
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:36:09 -0400
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Hi- Tried this before but shall do again. Does anyone have any
information regarding Eaton Square in Dorchester, MA, as my family
donated the land to the town for the square. I am also looking for
information about the Robinson family that was the shipping family in
Dorchester at the time of the revolution. I know there was a Robinson
tavern but I can't find out which Robinson owned it. Any help would
be very appreciated. Thank you. Cynthia Broydrick
On Sep 20, 2007, at 4:14 PM,
wrote:

>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Sheepscot as a place-name (Betty)
> 2. Re: Sheepscot as a place-name ()
> 3. Fascinating article in the Washington Post today (Sue Richart)
> 4. question ()
> 5. Re: TRIPP Family in Bristol County (COFFIN) (Ruy Cardoso)
> 6. Naturalization Index ()
> 7. Patty Rose ()
> 8. Sheepscot as a place-name ()
> 9. Re: Sheepscot as a place-name ()
> 10. Sheepscot Plantation (Cont'd.) (Betty)
> 11. Re: Sheepscot as a place-name ()
> 12. Re: Sheepscot as a place-name ()
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:37:34 -0400
> From: "Betty" <>
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <12f101c7fb83$08b314b0$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I think we have a "Sheepscot" in MA. Out of curiousity, I looked
> in my
> dictionary and did not find that word mentioned. So, I just did
> a Google
> search and found there is a Sheepscot River in Maine.
>
> http://www.mainerivers.org/river_features/sheepscot.htm
>
> And, there seems to be a Sheepscot Bay in Maine:
>
> http://www.sheepscotbayboat.com/
>
> And there is a Sheepscot Valley in Maine. (all related ??)
>
> http://www.photo-ne.com/sheepscot/sheepscot2.html
>
> Is there a town, Sheepscot, in Maine ? This site says there is:
>
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?
> city=Sheepscot&state=ME&country=us
>
> There is a ship, Sheepscot.
> http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/auxil/aog24.htm
>
> Oh, this might be more of an interest. There is a Sheepscot Village
> Historic District in Maine:
>
> http://www.mainepreservation.com/Endangered/sheepscotvillage.shtml
>
> Oh, again, I just remembered there is a "Sheepfold" in MA:
>
> http://www.mass.gov/dcr/parks/metroboston/fells.htm
>
> I wonder where the name, Sheepscot, came from !
>
> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
>
>
>
> Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your
> surnames
> and place-names.
> And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your
> surnames and
> place-names.
>
> (There are Sheepscot items currently seen in an on-line auction !!!!
> Check them out !!!)
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From:
> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To: "Betty" <>
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Betty:
> I don't know the origin of the name "Sheepscot." It is in Lincoln Co.,
> Maine around the present town of Newcastle. My interest in the
> place is
> when it was part of Massachusetts. I believe it was called Sheepscot
> Plantation.
>
> Some of my ancestors from Hingham, Marshfield, Salem and Rowley and NH
> ended up in that area.
>
> The old saying is that if you're researching Mass. people and
> you've lost
> track of them, check Maine.
>
> A lot of "digs" going on up in that area in Newcastle and the
> Pemaquid area.
>
>
> I hope history hasn't forgotten Sheepscot as there was a lot of things
> appening up there.
>
>
> thanks, Charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> I think we have a "Sheepscot" in MA. Out of curiousity, I
>> looked in my
>> dictionary and did not find that word mentioned. So, I just did a
>> Google
>> search and found there is a Sheepscot River in Maine.
>>
>> http://www.mainerivers.org/river_features/sheepscot.htm
>>
>> And, there seems to be a Sheepscot Bay in Maine:
>>
>> http://www.sheepscotbayboat.com/
>>
>> And there is a Sheepscot Valley in Maine. (all related ??)
>>
>> http://www.photo-ne.com/sheepscot/sheepscot2.html
>>
>> Is there a town, Sheepscot, in Maine ? This site says there is:
>>
>> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?
>> city=Sheepscot&state=ME&country=us
>>
>> There is a ship, Sheepscot.
>> http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/auxil/aog24.htm
>>
>> Oh, this might be more of an interest. There is a Sheepscot
>> Village
>> Historic District in Maine:
>>
>> http://www.mainepreservation.com/Endangered/sheepscotvillage.shtml
>>
>> Oh, again, I just remembered there is a "Sheepfold" in MA:
>>
>> http://www.mass.gov/dcr/parks/metroboston/fells.htm
>>
>> I wonder where the name, Sheepscot, came from !
>>
>> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your
>> surnames
>> and place-names.
>> And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your
>> surnames
>> and
>> place-names.
>>
>> (There are Sheepscot items currently seen in an on-line auction !!!!
>> Check them out !!!)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:19:34 -0700
> From: "Sue Richart" <>
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Fascinating article in the Washington Post
> today
> To:
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Greetings listers,
>
> I might suggest you take a look at a Washington Post article,
> titled 'After
> Years Lost, Identity Reclaimed, Detective Work Leads Smithsonian
> Team to
> Give Unearthed Body a Name'. It is at url
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/19/
> AR2007091902409.html?hpid=topnews.
> The article explains how a coffin was found and the work done by the
> Smithsonian, to include DNA samples, to determine who he might be.
> Great
> stuff! It is about Maryland, but still worth reading.
>
> Sue Richart
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:15:16 GMT
> From: "" <>
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] question
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Listers - does anyone know if a person had to own property to be
> able to serve on a town council back in 1790? Thank you. Doret
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:15:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ruy Cardoso <>
> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] TRIPP Family in Bristol County
> (COFFIN)
> To:
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>> From: "Betty" <>
>>
>> I thought I had seen a reference that to George and
>> Esther living in Bristol, MA, in 1900. But, I just
>> did a little investigating and see there is no Town
>> of Bristol.
>
> Not in 1900, but there was a Bristol in Massachusetts
> back in colonial times. I don't recall the exact year
> (sometime in the mid-1700s), but that town along with
> perhaps three or four others was transferred from
> Massachusetts to Rhode Island. The county name of
> Bristol stayed in place for the towns that remained in
> Massachusetts, including New Bedford, and is also used
> for the towns in Rhode Island.
>
> I don't know if your Tripp family moved back and forth
> between what are now MA and RI, but you might keep
> that border change in mind if you're having trouble
> finding them in early MA records.
>
> Ruy Cardoso
> www.newenglandcousins.com
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:44:07 -0400 (EDT)
> From:
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Naturalization Index
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Someone sent a list of naturalization records that occurred in
> Mass., and
> unfortunately I lost it when my computer bit the dust.
>
> Is there an online list that can be searched?
>
> Also, how about the "first papers" that a person was supposed to
> get on
> arrival? I've got an ancestor who probably filed the first papers and
> didn't live long enough to be naturalized.
>
> thanks, Charles
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:55:15 EDT
> From:
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Patty Rose
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Dear List:
>
> If any of you are in touch with Patty Rose or know her current email
> address, please let me know what it is. The email address at her
> site,
> (mailto:) , returned my
> email as undeliverable.
> Her website url is
> _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pattyrose/engel/gen/fg07/
> fg07_407.htm_
> (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pattyrose/engel/gen/fg07/
> fg07_407.htm) .
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jayne
> (mailto:)
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:15:58 EDT
> From:
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To: ,
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Origin of the name Sheepscot
> Source Collections of the Maine Historical Society (full book
> online with
> Google Books Online)
> p.232
> The settlement of Sheepscot was originally call by the English,
> Dartmouth or
> New Dartmouth - afterwards
> incorporated (1758) by the name of New Castle.
>
> The Indian name for it was Sheepscot. It was situated on a neck of
> land on
> the east side and near the falls
> of the river, granted by the Sagamores of the country, Robinhood
> and others,
> to John Mason in 1652.
> Transcribed by Janice Farnswroth
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:38:40 -0400 (EDT)
> From:
> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To:
> Cc: ,
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Yes, I didn't know that. I've read Cushman's book on the History of
> Sheepscot and Newcastle--I evidently need to read it again.
>
> I believe it was 1729 and Rev. Christopher Tappan of Newbury, Essex
> Co.
> purchased the area in and around there in what is now Newcastle.
> One of my
> ancestors was chief surveyor and laid out Tappan's land. It was a few
> years ago that archaeologists were doing some digging in that area
> and I
> don't know what they discovered.
>
> One of my other ancestors purchased 100 acres in 1733 at Broad Bay at
> Muscongus, which is close to Pemaquid. The deed mentions the falls
> and the
> other side was Indian territory. AND you didn't go on the other side.
>
> Beautiful country up there.
>
> thanks, Charles
>
>
>> Origin of the name Sheepscot
>> Source Collections of the Maine Historical Society (full book
>> online with
>> Google Books Online)
>> p.232
>> The settlement of Sheepscot was originally call by the English,
>> Dartmouth
>> or
>> New Dartmouth - afterwards
>> incorporated (1758) by the name of New Castle.
>>
>> The Indian name for it was Sheepscot. It was situated on a neck of
>> land on
>> the east side and near the falls
>> of the river, granted by the Sagamores of the country, Robinhood and
>> others,
>> to John Mason in 1652.
>> Transcribed by Janice Farnswroth
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************** See what's new at
>> http://www.aol.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:30:04 -0400
> From: "Betty" <>
> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot Plantation (Cont'd.)
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <141601c7fbbc$a5b38ea0$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I did a Google search for "Sheepscot Plantation" in quotes and
> found several
> sites mentioning it - most about Lincoln County. But, I did
> find this
> site which you might like to read:
>
> http://www.mainelincolncountynews.com/index.cfm?ID=12032
>
> and
>
> http://history.rays-place.com/me/newcastle-me.htm
>
> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:44:20 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To:
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Subject: Tappan.
> Source: Genealogical & Personal Memoirs of the Families of Boston
> by William
> Richar Cutter.
> p.1559
> Walter Phillips, born about 1619 in England, came to America about
> 1630 as
> one of the John Mason
> colony that settled the Sheepscot plantation. He bought land in
> 1661 of the
> Indians at Damariscott, Maine.
> In 1665 he was appointed Clerk and Recorder of a land commission
> for that
> section of Maine. In 1680 the
> village at Sheepscot was burnt by the Indians and with others,
> Phillips took
> refuge in Charlestown, Mass.
> In 1689 he was appointed by the General Court a Tavern Keeper at Salem
> Village (now Peabody) He was
> admitted freeeman in 1690. He sold his land at Damariscott in 1702
> to C.
> Tappan of Newbury, Mass.
>
> Subject: Tappan families.
> History of Boothbay, Southport & Boothbay Harbor, Maine 1623 -1905 by
> Francis Byron Greene.
> p.165
> The Tappan claim covered nearly all of the present towns of
> Newcastle and
> Damariscotta, extended to
> Edgecomb and included a part of Nobleboro, also in the vicinity of
> Mount
> Sweagne (now Montsweag in
> Woolwich) and, perhaps, more on the west of Sheepscot River. This
> claim
> rested upon three deeds from
> Indian sagamores to Walter Phillips in 1661, 1662 and 1674. Phillips
> conveyed all his right and title in
> the property, in 1702 to Reverend Christopher Tappan of Newbury,
> Mass.
> Tappan had one son and three
> daughters. On Sept 11, 1746, he deeded one-fourth of his property
> to his son
> and September 16, shortly
> before his death, conveyed the remainder jointly to his daughers.
> Besides
> his purchase of Phillips, Tappan
> bought out the heirs of Mason
>
> p.166
> and Gent and some others on the Sheepscot. He sent parties to take
> possession and live upon his lands
> in 1718. He made efforts to purchase the claims of heirs of other
> settlers,
> who had been driven out by the
> the Indians the previous century, but failed to do so.
>
> Subject: Tappan
> Source: Hereditary Descent - Its laws and Facts Applied to Human
> Improvement
> by Orson Squire Fowler.
> p.211
> Abraham Tappan came to Newbury in 1634. He oldest son, Peter Tappan
> was a
> physician at Newbury and
> a noted man. One of his sons was the Rev. Dr. Chistopher Tappan of
> Newbury,
> distinguished for his
> talents and his frank fearlessness in avowing his sentiments. The Rev.
> Chistopher Tappan's nephew,
> Benjamin Tappan was minister in Manchester, Mass. - a superior man,
> whose
> son David Tappan was
> professor of divinity at Cambridge College. David Tappan's son
> Benjamin is
> now minister in Augusta, Maine,
> an able man. David Tappan of Cambridge, an uncle to Arthur, Lewis
>
> p.212
> and Benjamin Tappan - the latter being now a Senator in Congress
> from Ohio
> and John and Charles Tappan
> of Boston. All of them are superior men. I could mention many
> others of
> this same family. Concerning
> the Tappan race, two things are observable:
>
> Abraham Tappan had two wives. Dr. Peter Tappan was son of the
> first wife
> and the other four sons,
> Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and John Tappan were son of the 2nd wife.
> Now, while
> the descendants exhibit
> many of the traits of this family, the superior talents were all
> confined to
> posterity of Peter Tappan.
> Descendants in the line of Peter Tappan for four generations, or
> down to
> Lewis Tappan's father, all
> married women of superior talents, as I happened to know. We
> therefore, have
> a right to expect children
> to be intelligent, when both their parents possess superior
> intellect. With
> the history of this family, I am
> well acquainted, as my mother was a Tappan and my grandmother
> Tappan was a
> woman of superior mind.
> Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth
>
> _http://books.google.com/books?id=Djy84X-
> qgrUC&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=rev+chris
> topher+tappan&source=web&ots=8baa-QrpFQ&sig=Fee0v_f4VSDVFAs-
> OyegzR1zWu0#PPA212
> ,M1_
> (http://books.google.com/books?id=Djy84X-
> qgrUC&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=rev+christopher
> +tappan&source=web&ots=8baa-QrpFQ&sig=Fee0v_f4VSDVFAs-OyegzR1zWu0#P
> PA212,M1)
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:14:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From:
> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Sheepscot as a place-name
> To:
> Cc:
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> If I understand you correctly, you're a Tappan descendant? If so,
> did Rev.
> Tappan have a diary or journal that still exists?I'll agree that smart
> parents breed smart kids.
>
> I've been trying to find information on two brothers, one Richard
> Pearce,
> the other escapes me, who were from Essex Co., Mass. Richard was at
> Plymouth ca 1733 selling 100 acre tracts at Broad Bay at Muscongus.
> This
> is located on the Pemaquid side of the Bay. I've been trying for
> years to
> see if there's any documentation other than the simple deeds. The
> land was
> contested by another group, the German settlers who claimed ownership.
>
> The people who lost the land were called "The Pemaquid Heirs" by
> the Mass.
> State Archives. I have been unable to find much else on the dispute
> and my
> probable ancestor Thomas HOMES or HOLMES. All I know is that it was
> the
> Pemaquid Patent.
>
> thanks, Charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Subject: Tappan.
>> Source: Genealogical & Personal Memoirs of the Families of Boston by
>> William
>> Richar Cutter.
>> p.1559
>> Walter Phillips, born about 1619 in England, came to America about
>> 1630 as
>> one of the John Mason
>> colony that settled the Sheepscot plantation. He bought land in
>> 1661 of
>> the
>> Indians at Damariscott, Maine.
>> In 1665 he was appointed Clerk and Recorder of a land commission
>> for that
>> section of Maine. In 1680 the
>> village at Sheepscot was burnt by the Indians and with others,
>> Phillips
>> took
>> refuge in Charlestown, Mass.
>> In 1689 he was appointed by the General Court a Tavern Keeper at
>> Salem
>> Village (now Peabody) He was
>> admitted freeeman in 1690. He sold his land at Damariscott in 1702
>> to C.
>> Tappan of Newbury, Mass.
>>
>> Subject: Tappan families.
>> History of Boothbay, Southport & Boothbay Harbor, Maine 1623 -1905 by
>> Francis Byron Greene.
>> p.165
>> The Tappan claim covered nearly all of the present towns of
>> Newcastle and
>> Damariscotta, extended to
>> Edgecomb and included a part of Nobleboro, also in the vicinity of
>> Mount
>> Sweagne (now Montsweag in
>> Woolwich) and, perhaps, more on the west of Sheepscot River. This
>> claim
>> rested upon three deeds from
>> Indian sagamores to Walter Phillips in 1661, 1662 and 1674. Phillips
>> conveyed all his right and title in
>> the property, in 1702 to Reverend Christopher Tappan of Newbury,
>> Mass.
>> Tappan had one son and three
>> daughters. On Sept 11, 1746, he deeded one-fourth of his property
>> to his
>> son
>> and September 16, shortly
>> before his death, conveyed the remainder jointly to his daughers.
>> Besides
>> his purchase of Phillips, Tappan
>> bought out the heirs of Mason
>>
>> p.166
>> and Gent and some others on the Sheepscot. He sent parties to take
>> possession and live upon his lands
>> in 1718. He made efforts to purchase the claims of heirs of other
>> settlers,
>> who had been driven out by the
>> the Indians the previous century, but failed to do so.
>>
>> Subject: Tappan
>> Source: Hereditary Descent - Its laws and Facts Applied to Human
>> Improvement
>> by Orson Squire Fowler.
>> p.211
>> Abraham Tappan came to Newbury in 1634. He oldest son, Peter
>> Tappan was a
>> physician at Newbury and
>> a noted man. One of his sons was the Rev. Dr. Chistopher Tappan of
>> Newbury,
>> distinguished for his
>> talents and his frank fearlessness in avowing his sentiments. The
>> Rev.
>> Chistopher Tappan's nephew,
>> Benjamin Tappan was minister in Manchester, Mass. - a superior
>> man, whose
>> son David Tappan was
>> professor of divinity at Cambridge College. David Tappan's son
>> Benjamin is
>> now minister in Augusta, Maine,
>> an able man. David Tappan of Cambridge, an uncle to Arthur, Lewis
>>
>> p.212
>> and Benjamin Tappan - the latter being now a Senator in Congress
>> from Ohio
>> and John and Charles Tappan
>> of Boston. All of them are superior men. I could mention many
>> others of
>> this same family. Concerning
>> the Tappan race, two things are observable:
>>
>> Abraham Tappan had two wives. Dr. Peter Tappan was son of the
>> first wife
>> and the other four sons,
>> Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and John Tappan were son of the 2nd wife. Now,
>> while
>> the descendants exhibit
>> many of the traits of this family, the superior talents were all
>> confined
>> to
>> posterity of Peter Tappan.
>> Descendants in the line of Peter Tappan for four generations, or
>> down to
>> Lewis Tappan's father, all
>> married women of superior talents, as I happened to know. We
>> therefore,
>> have
>> a right to expect children
>> to be intelligent, when both their parents possess superior
>> intellect.
>> With
>> the history of this family, I am
>> well acquainted, as my mother was a Tappan and my grandmother
>> Tappan was a
>> woman of superior mind.
>> Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth
>>
>> _http://books.google.com/books?id=Djy84X-
>> qgrUC&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=rev+chris
>> topher+tappan&source=web&ots=8baa-QrpFQ&sig=Fee0v_f4VSDVFAs-
>> OyegzR1zWu0#PPA212
>> ,M1_
>> (http://books.google.com/books?id=Djy84X-
>> qgrUC&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=rev+christopher
>> +tappan&source=web&ots=8baa-QrpFQ&sig=Fee0v_f4VSDVFAs-OyegzR1zWu0#P
>> PA212,M1)
>>
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