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From: Lawrence Owen <>
Subject: [NYSTLAWR] Martha P. Carr daughter of William H. Carr and Permelia
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:30:11 -0500


Hi Leslie,


I am listing the 1860,1880 & 1900 Census records below, just in case you do
not have them (Could not find the Wm Carr family in 1870)--


1860 US Census, Oswegatchie, St. Lawrence, NY

CARR, William H. 49

CARR, Permelia 45

CARR, Orson O 18

CARR, Mary 69


The young Mary is no longer with the family.


1880 US Census, Lisbon, St. Lawrence, NY

CARR, William H. 67

CARR, Orson O. 38

CARR, Emma 33

CARR, Mary E. 10

CARR, Hattie B. 8
CARR, Alfred O. 2

Mary seems to be a 3 generation naming pattern in the Wm Carr family and
first female child Mary naming pattern for at least 2 generations,so it
seems unlikely if/when Mary died, she would have been buried as Martha.
Based on the first female child naming pattern, I would guess Martha was
possibly born after the 1840 Census and may have died before the 1850 Census
(or after 1850 and before 1860)--sadly for your research, like she never
existed....

1900 US Census, Liston, St. Lawrence, NY
CARR, Orson O., 58, b Aug 1841, married 34 yrs (married 1866), Farmer, Owns
Farm, b NY, (All born NY, including everyone's parents)
CARR, Emma E, 53, b Oct 1846, 3Births/3Living
CARR, Hattie 26, b Sep 1873
CARR, Alfred O., 22, b June 1877

This is a long shot, but if you have access to an LDS family history library
nearby, you can order the 1855 NY STATE Census microfilm from Salt Lake
City, if they do not have it in their library and see if there is a Martha
with the Wm Carr family in 1855.

Good Luck,

Diana



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Leslie Vaughn <>wrote:

> Thanks for the information. I do have Mary in the family based on the 1850
> census, but it is Martha that I am looking for. Do you think they are one
> and the same?
>
> Leslie
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Lawrence Owen" <>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] Martha P. Carr daughter of William H. Carr
> andPyrmilia
>
> > Here is a record from rootsweb, world connect family trees--if you click
> > on
> > the url below, and click on Ancestors, there is a pedigree of William
> > Carr's
> > ancestors
> >
> > Per the 1850 cus, looks like your Mary Carr was born about 1837
> >
> > Hope this is helpful to you.
> >
> > Diana Chapman Owen
> >
> >
> http://mail.google.com/a/wildblue.net/?account_id=dianaowen%40wildblue.net#inbox/12c60fdc6014a3ba
> >
> > *Name:* William Carr
> > *Sex:* M
> > *Birth:* ABT 1811
> > *Reference Number:* 13155
> > *Death:* 05 OCT 1897
> > *Note:*
> >
> > Likely identical with William H Carr living in Oswegatchie, NY (St
> > Lawrence
> > Co) in Federal Censuses.
> >
> > 1850 Federal Census for New York, Oswegatchie, NY (St Lawrence Co)
> > William H Carr 39 M NY (the nine goes below the line) Farmer $250
> > Pernelia 34 F NY (the four stays above the line)
> > Mary 13 F NY
> > Melissa 11 F NY
> > Orrson 8 M NY
> >
> > 1840 Federal Census for New York, Oswegatchie, NY (St Lawrence Co)
> > Wm Carr
> > 1 M 20-30 [Daniel]
> > 2 F less than 5 [Mary, Melissa]
> > 1 F 20-30 [Permelia]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Father:* James Hadsell
> > Carr<
> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pnoble66&id=I13149
> >b:
> > 1790 in Rhode Island
> > *Mother:* Mary Elizabeth
> > Unknown<
> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pnoble66&id=I13150
> >b:
> > ABT 1790
> >
> > *Marriage* 1 Permelia
> > Unknown<
> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pnoble66&id=I13155
> >b:
> > ABT 1815
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Leslie Vaughn
> > <>wrote:
> >
> >> Anne Cady had posted a photo of a gravestone of Martha P. Carr. It is
> >> in
> >> Pine Hill (Eel Weir) Cemetery, Oswegatchie, NY
> >> Her stone is between her parents and is very small. The only writing is
> >> Martha P. There are no dates or any other marks on the stone.
> >> Her parents are William H. Carr and Pyrmilia. The stone for Martha
> >> between
> >> her parents is the only indication I have of her existence.
> >> Does anyone have any more information on Martha? When and where was she
> >> born and died. Because of the layout of her stone, I assume she was an
> >> infant or child at death and that she died before her parents, but I
> >> could
> >> be wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> Any information would be appreciated. '
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Leslie Vaughn
> >>
> >>
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