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From: "martha w. jackson" <>
Subject: Re: [ORWASCO] Stanbro - Olmstead house sale
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:25:02 -0600
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Have you checked the mortgages? If they had such, back then. Everyone didn't
have the money to buy the land outright. My father borrowed money from my
mother's uncle to buy our house in Yakima. That was back in 1930. I was 2.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug & Patti Ensor" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:44 AM
Subject: [ORWASCO] Stanbro - Olmstead house sale


> Thanks Martha for responding!
>
> Wasco County was the parent/grandparent county for most of eastern OR and
> actually included parts of ID, MT, and a piece of WY (per the info on
> line)!
> So I am 99.9% sure I am in the correct county. (But I have had the same
> situation as you describe in OH)
>
> I don't know how you would buy the house without buying the property. And
> it might have been "buying" in words only since the house was being lived
> in
> by his father-in-law, DeForrest "Forrest" Stanbro. Does anyone have any
> wild guesses, or knowledge, about this?
>
> I don't know if Stanbro ever started the paperwork for a claim, but no one
> owned the property prior to Olmstead filing for it or there would not be a
> BLM file for it. If anyone knows where to look for such paperwork
> (starting
> a claim but not finishing it), I would appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Olmstead's file at the National Archives shows that he originally hoped to
> purchase 160 acres, but couldn't get enough money to do so; he
> "abandoned"
> his application for 80 acres and paid for 80.
>
> I haven't heard of houses being moved from one property to another in the
> 1870's and 1880's, but I suppose anything is potentially possible. I'll
> keep that possibility in mind.
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:01 AM
> Subject: ORWASCO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 64
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Request for Property sale lookup (martha w. jackson)
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>> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:58:07 -0600
>> From: "martha w. jackson" <>
>> Subject: Re: [ORWASCO] Request for Property sale lookup
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>> I have had a problem with this area and these dates in the Crook county
>> area also. Wasco was the parent county. You may hAve to c heck several
>> counties to locate whomever.
>> My GGGF, Peter ZELL, Buried Juniper Haven, Prineville, died Feb 1882.
>> He is nowhere to be found in the previous census, but said to have been
>> living with his son, Abraham. Must have been asleep in the back bedroom.
>>
>> Too, Do you think the house would not have been sold WITH the property?
>> WOULD THEY HaVE MOVED IT?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug & Patti Ensor" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: [ORWASCO] Request for Property sale lookup
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm hoping someone might be able to check to see if there might be land
>>> record data for the sale of a home, rather than a property.
>>>
>>> On his homestead application, William W. Olmstead claims to have
>>> purchased
>>> the house (not the property) of "D. F. Stanbro" which would be his
>>> father-in-law DeForrest "Forrest" Stanbro. The homestead site was along
>>> Ramsey Creek. Olmstead's homestead application indicates he & his
>>> family
>>> arrived March 1, 1878.
>>>
>>> The 80 acres is in Sec.2, Twp. 2S, R12E. The application requirements
>>> were completed June 30, 1882. The Dalles directory of 1883 lists
>>> thesettlers of Dufur and vicinity including: ... W. W. Olmstead... (no
>>> Stanbro)".
>>>
>>> By June 1885, the Olmsteads had moved back to the mid-west (Overton,
>>> NE).
>>>
>>> I've looked online and cannot find any property sale lists for Wasco
>>> County. I am hoping to find a volunteerwho lives in the area to look at
>>> The Dalles Public Library or the County Courthouse for a sale of the
>>> above
>>> property between June 1882 and June 1885.
>>>
>>> I am also hoping someone can tell me if the sale of the house might have
>>> been recorded somewhere (and if so, where?) since Omstead's cash entry
>>> file indicates he purchased the house from his father-in-law. If I can
>>> find that record, it might indicate how long Stanbro had lived in that
>>> specific location.
>>>
>>> The father-in-law, Stanbro, is first recorded in the 15 Mile Precinct in
>>> the 1860 census. It is possible that Stanbro lived in the Ramsey Creek
>>> area for at least two decades, but never filed a homestead application;
>>> I
>>> don't think he could ever put together enough money to pay for the land.
>>> It is also possible that he moved around within the same area, renting
>>> rather than buying.
>>>
>>> (Note: Olmstead has sometimes been recorded as 'Olmsted' and also as
>>> 'Olinstead'. Stanbro has been recorded as Stanbro, Stanbrow,
>>> Stanbrough,
>>> Stanborough, Stansbro, Stamsbro, etc., sometimes multiple spellings
>>> within
>>> the same document!)
>>>
>>> Hoping to hear from a kind volunteer!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Patti
>>>
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