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From: "Leslie O'Neill-Reynolds" <>
Subject: RE: [O'S] O'NEILL - AURIE - McNAMARA - O'SHAUGHNESSY
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:31:22 -0400
In-Reply-To: <B6F37FE6.11E3%astaines@sympatico.ca>


1. O'NEILL
2. O'SHAUGHNESSY

Thank you very much Ann,

To answer your question, I am currently in Burlington but I used to frequent
Callander when I was young - friends of my parents - LaGassie's (I may have
spelled that incorrectly)lived there right off Hwy 11 - I'm sure you are
familiar with the name. Small world!

1. O'NEILL: I research and collect all extended family info so I do have
all the stuff on James O'Neill and his family (re Anne who married Patrick
McNamara etc. and their children) as well as James' other children and
descendents but I am still looking for descendants of James and Catherine's
son, James William and JW's daughter, Kathleen who also married a McNamara
and a few other of J & C's children's descendents, so I really appreciate
your input and the fact that you will keep looking.

I have all the O'Neill/O'Neil (plus others that I needed) records from St.
Mary's. My grandfather is buried there. The cemetery keepers at St. Mary's
and the associated cemeteries there are among the most helpful that I have
come across. Is the online St. Mary's website work yours? If so its
WONDERFUL!

We go to North Bay quite frequently. I was born there. My maternal
grandparents raised their family in North Bay. They lived on McIntyre
Street and on Harvey Street. Also, when my husband and his parents came to
Canada, they ended up settling in North Bay and his Mom still lives up in
the Airport Hill community close to the base. I went to St. Joe's and my
husband went to Scollard Hall (when those two schools were still "girls" and
"boys" separately) so North Bay is still "old stomping ground" for both of
us. Due to my father's career we travelled a lot but I went back to North
Bay to attend Nipissing University.

2. O'SHAUGHNESSY: THIS IS EXCITING!!!! It may not be such a long shot!
The son of John O'SHAUGHNESSY (that I mentioned below) and his wife
Catherine HOGAN or TOBIN, was indeed William and yes one of his daughters
was Susan. I don't yet have a lot of information on this John's family but
I am still researching. Do you know Sharon O'Shaughnessy from this line?

Do you happen to have more of the names from Kathy O'SHAUGHNESSY-TRIPP's
family and would you or she be willing to send their info to me? I remember
seeing Kathy's posted message in 1998 or 1999 (I can't remember which). I
have not yet contacted her, but now that I am back on the O'SHAUGHNESSY part
of my research I would very much like to try to firm up my connection
theories. Also I have changed my email address since my original query a
couple of years ago re: Catherine and Susan, so unfortunately if anyone had
tried to recently contact me via the old address it would have gone astray.

Maybe we can connect all this to Thomas's line as well! I feel like we are
on the VERGE!! If so, that would nail down at least four O'SHAUGHNESSY
siblings born in the late 1700's to the early 1800's that came to Canada in
the 1840's and even possibly more!

It also may help to explain some of the O'NEILL migration to certain areas
of the States.

RE Limerick: It is interesting to note, although it was not uncommon for
ships coming to Canada to depart from Limerick, and although there were no
other O'Shaughnessys aboard, the ship that James and Kitty came over on was
indeed from Limerick and in 1841.

Again, Thank you so much for your response.
I really look forward to hearing from you and any others that may think they
are part of this particular family of O'SHAUGHNESSYs - SHAUGHNESSYs -
SHONSEYs etc.

To LAURIE: Thank you for your earlier response back. I really appreciate
it. I'm thinking its probably not unrealistic to at least try to connect
our families. What do you think?

The Quest goes on......

Regards,
Leslie

Current Research interests in Ontario & Quebec:
***** O'NEILL, O'SHAUGHNESSY, O'MALLEY, ROY, LOFTUS, McNAMARA, ROCHE,
HAZELTON, NESBITT, SUTHERLAND, QUESNEL, DEMERS *****

_________________________________________________________
From: Ann Staines [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:15 PM

Hi Leslie and others

I read your query with interest, have recorded some of your family info even
though there is no apparent connection to my O'Shaughnessys (yet), mine came
from Limerick c1841. I live near North Bay and would be happy to check
some sources here for you on your O'Neils.

This is what I have:
James O'Neil b 1798 Co. Clare d 1873 md. 1) Johanna McManus 2) Catherine
O'Shaughnessy b c1820 Ire d 28 Jly 1894, Eganville, 74 yrs
Childr: James William b 30 Jul 1861 Eganville
Anne m Patrick McNamara (s/o Martin)

My sources for the above are:
1) LDS film 1304907 Eganville RC church records (Catherine's death & James
William's birth)
2) "Founding Families of Bromley Twp" by Carol Bennett-McQuaig (info re
James' 1st marr., and dtr Anne's marr info)
3) Vital Stat Death cert. for Catherine.

Since I am working on retranscribing the St. Mary's Cemetery in North Bay, I
checked the records for O'Neil James William and Margaret (Aurie), nothing
found. I'll keep looking.

Your story about the two sisters marrying two brothers has a familiar ring,
and I don't know if there is any connection, and this is a long shot, but
this same story was told to me by Kathy (Shaughnessy) Tripp in Bancroft.
She descends from William Shaughnessy & Mary Peria. William's parents were
John & Catherine who emigr. c 1841 as well, settled in Pontiac Mich. for a
time, William was born there, John and Catherine both died in a flu epidemic
apparently. I have looked for another Shaughnessy marrying a Peria and
found nothing, so maybe it was in the earlier generation, and again maybe,
this is why William found his way back up to Maynooth, Eganville area??
Another little coincidence, William named one of his daughters Susan.

Where are you Leslie?

Ann Staines
Callander Ont.
________________________________________________________________________
on 4/5/01 5:11 AM, Leslie O'Neill-Reynolds at wrote:
>
> Hi Laurie,
> Absolutely - share - I don't mind!
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1. Eganville is located in Renfrew County in Ontario - it is pretty much
> "smack dab" in the centre of the county, directly south of Pembroke and
> roughly between Killaloe Station and Douglas (all of these being
northwest
> of the town of Renfrew)
>
> 2. Re: Buckingham details - have tons but it is mostly on the descendents
> of the families below.
>
> 3. Catherine (Kitty) b. 1820 IRE, d. 1894 Eganville, and Susan (Suzanna in
> some records) b. 1793 IRE, d. 1865 Buckingham, O'SHAUGHNESSY married
O'NEILL
> brothers: Catherine to James; Susan to John. Both couples were married
> before they came to Canada.
> James and Catherine survived the shipwreck of the "Amanda" and John and
> Susan came over with 12 of their children on the "Sarah".
> My O'NEILLs are from County Clare in Ireland, specifically from Cratloe /
> Sixmilebridge.
> These O'NEILLs/O'SHAUGHNESSYs followed another O'NEILL brother to
Buckingham
> PQ. His name was Constantine. Another O'NEILL brother was Michael - he
> went to New Brunswick. Another brother, Robert stayed in Clare but some
of
> his children came to Canada.
>
> I am pretty certain that my O'SHAUGHNESSY's hail from Co. Clare too as I
> have found O'SHAUGHNESSYs in the area as well but have yet to make a firm
> direct connection. Also some of the current "Toronto residing"
> O'SHAUGHNESSYs have direct connections to Thomas O'SHAUGHNESSY (b.1803,
> d.1891) from Co Clare, who also immigrated to Canada (c 1843-45). Some of
> his descendents were also in Eganville. Although I believe that the
> O'SHAUGHNESSY sisters were related to Thomas, I have yet to prove/disprove
> it but my "theory" is that the James and Catherine O'NEILL family moved to
> Eganville from Buckingham PQ, because they had O'SHAUGHNESSY relatives
> there. Eganville was not exactly a thriving metropolis but if one already
> had relatives there.....???? Also those three families share given names.
> Still a theory though.
> There is another, John O'SHAUGHNESSY from the same generation, whose son
> raised a family of thirteen in Maynooth which is in a different county but
> not too far from Eganville. (Sharon if you are out there - I sent you an
> email two weeks ago regarding more information but I may have an old email
> address - if you see this please contact me at )
>
> Laurie, I have more but this is getting long - I hope its OK - I don't
want
> to be thrown off this list for verbosity! Should we take this discussion
> off list or do you think that the other list members don't mind?
>
> I look forward to hearing from you. Where are you?
>
> The Quest goes on....
>
> Regards,
> Leslie
____________________________________________________________________________

> From: Laurel Baker [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:12 PM
>
> Hi Leslie,
>
> I hope you won't mind, but I'm sharing this with our sister list since
> some of our folks are only subscribed to one or the other and Rootsweb
> hasn't come up with a way for me to gateway the two lists together yet.
> Several of our members have Canadian connections so I'd like to make
> sure everyone gets to see your info. (for those of you receiving 2
> copies of this, my apologies)
>
> Someone forgot to include an index in my 'official' road map of Ontario
> and my own knowledge of Ontario geography is pretty much limited to
> Toronto, Whitby, and the Niagara peninsula areas - where is Eganville?
>
> Catherine (various spellings) seems to have been fairly common through
> many of the O'Shaughnessy lines. I checked her in my Shaughnessy
> database and have several so far unidentified Catharines. Do you have
> any other info about her - approximate age, decade of birth, possible
> origin in Ireland (the O'Neil could be Galway as there are Neil/O'Neils
> in the Tuam parish records I'm reading)?
>
> I know there were O'Shaughnessys in Montreal, Toronto, Renfrew County,
> and near Peterborough by the 1840's, do you have any other details about
> the relatives who were already living in/near Buckingham?
>
> My own O'Shaughnessys didn't arrive in Canada until around 1850 when
> they were in the Whitby/Pickering, Ontario County area. Whitby wasn't
> exactly a major mecca for new immigrants, even allowing for the influx
> of famine Irish, so we've often wondered if there was a connection with
> the Peterborough or Renfrew county groups (we haven't found one with the
> Toronto group yet as mine were from around the Galway/Clare border and
> the Toronto group seems to have more connections with the Limerick
> area).
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie O'Neill-Reynolds [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:45 AM
> To:
> Subject: [O'S] O'NEILL - AURIE - McNAMARA - O'SHAUGHNESSY
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am researching and looking for descendents of any the following:
>
> O'NEILL, James William (b. 1861 in Eganville, Ont - d. 1906 in North
> Bay,
> Ont) - son of James O'NEILL and Catherine O'SHAUGHNESSY who came to
> Canada
> in 1841 settling first in Buckingham, PQ (where some of their relatives
> already lived), then Eganville, Ont.
>
> On 25 Oct 1891, in North Bay, Ontario,
> James William married Margaret AURIE -(b. 1864 in Osceola, Ont - d.
> before
> 1949) -dau. of Antonio AURIE and Margaret "McPICKE" - spelling??
> Witnesses to the marriage were: J.P. McNAMARA and Sophie AURIE
>
> James was, among other things, a bookkeeper; Margaret was a dressmaker.
>
> James William and Margaret's eldest daughter, Kathleen Loretta Margaret
> O'NEILL (b. 20 Aug 1892 in North Bay, Ontario) married a McNAMARA. By
> 1949
> she was living on Old Mill Road in Toronto.
>
> If these names are familiar to anyone, I would be most interested in
> hearing
> from you.
>
> Regards,
> Leslie J. O'Neill-Reynolds
> Current Research interests in Ontario & Quebec:
> ***** O'NEILL, O'SHAUGHNESSY, O'MALLEY, ROY, McNAMARA, ROCHE,
> HAZELTON, NESBITT, SUTHERLAND, QUESNEL, DEMERS *****



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