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From: "Mel & Nancy Sandlin" <>
Subject: Re: [SANDLIN-L] A John and James Sandland
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:33:46 -0400
I would say you were right...James was 34 in 1767 and John JR was 36...Bute
county, Nc was formed in 1764 and dissolved in 1779, this land was split
into Franklin and Warren Counties, I reviewed the Bute county court
minutes of the court pleas and quarter sessions. and found all 4 brothers
there....remember John Sr died in 1770 so any mention of John would have to
be John Jr after 1770...I believe the Johns below are John Jr. the book
Appeared in court
John Jr 9th August 1769
James 10th August 1769
James 15 Nov 1769
Randolph 14 Nov 1777
John 9th Feb 1778
William 10th Feb 1778
Most of these appearances is as a witness in court...some like Randolph and
William reappeared in Nc so they could reclaim some land from a deed.
William had a son named Lewis born 1776 in Kings Creek, Sc so William
must have had to go back to prove his deed. These boys when they left
Virginia left for good...but not so with Nc..they hung around and went back
several times. Times were hard in Virginia with terrible taxes on tobacco...
all the good land had been farmed out by planting tobacco and corn ... Then
strict laws on the quality of tobacco was made by only the great plantations
owners who had went to the King and said ...my lord the quality of our
tobacco has slipped and our good name for quality will be lost!!! The
large plantation owners did have better quality...because they had a hundred
slaves in the fields that manicured there plants... so when the King said
yes..you set the standards....they jacked up the standards...then they paid
the farmers what they pleased...then sold the same tobacco in England for
what they pleased...a much higher priced than they paid the poor
farmer...people started to suffer and decided they had enough and less than
5 miles from were I live 600 people formed a wagon train and headed to
Nc...the same year as our family left. later those who took advantage of
there position were hanged after the farmers rebellion here in
Richmond...but later after staying in Nc for a generation...South Carolina
made a bid for the these same people and they went south into Sc. Our
ancestors picked some land that was once the land of the Catawba Indian
tribe..Catawba means River People...their land was referred to as Indian
10,000 plus Indians... once the pride of Sc... But these same Indians were
within a few years by 1744 only 400 were alive...small pox and other things
white man had wiped them out!!!
well let me go...sorry I got lost tonight but you did learn a little history
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grover Pope" <>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: [SANDLIN-L] A John and James Sandland
> Hi Sandlin Cousins; Just found this on the Bute Co. NC. site. Could
> these two be the sons of John and Elizabeth Frances Sandland. Both would
> have been abt thirty years old at the time of this record.
> Bute Co. NC. Record Book 1.
> 64 Administrator's bond in Estate of Timothy Fuller, dec'd. Elisabeth
> Fuller, admrx. Bond to Governor William Tryon, dated 27 January 1767.
> Securities; John Sandland, James Sandland. Recorded January Court 1767.
> Grover Pope in W.Tn. desc of Randolph (Randal) and Mouring ?? Sandlin,
> thru their dau Leodicia Sandlin b in 1778 who m Sherrod James b 1776 in
> Va. Sherrod was the son of John and Elizabeth Basye James.