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From: "Mel & Nancy Sandlin" <>
Subject: Re: [SANDLIN-L] Nels G. Sandelin
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:29:05 -0400
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Hi John,
saw your post and was a little hesitant in answering it as I'm sure he is
important to some one in Kentucky where my people came from, He was one of
the last from down the line that came here and why he decided to come to
Kentucky makes me wonder!!! there was a Sandlin under every rock in Kentucky
at that period and since almost all Swedish Sandelins spelled it that way
they normally drop the e after the d... I hope some one can answer your
question
but the chance of anyone being related to our first ancestor is nil.
I'll probably waste my time as I'm sure you know that the 1st Sandlin that
came here was in 1638... Jacob Avertssen Sandelin he was a seaman by trade
...born in 1600 in Scotland...a fact..parents unknown..his age was written
down by the Capt of the ship who hired
him in 1637 in Amsterdam, Holland as a British seaman born in Scotland in
1600...the Capt ...was Peter Minuet who later wrote a book describing how
she the young Queen of Sweden backed a request by Peter Minute to send a
settlement to the new world called New Sweden on the West River ..now
renamed the Delaware River...the ship left Sweden in Dec 1637 and arrived in
March 1638 in Jamestown , Virginia...picked up some wood and water and
sailed to the Delaware River..not wishing to hang around Jamestown very long
as the English would deny them land here.
His name Jacob Avertssen Sandelin was written down by the Swedish
historians and therefore wrote Sandelin as they spell his name not as
Sandeland as the Scottish would have spelled it...or as the Dutch would have
spelled
it Sandlyn. Jacob I believe came from a wealthy family as he was the 2nd
mate on the ship he came on which means he was an officer on board this ship
name Kalmar Nyckel...later in 1646 he had his own ship and traded with the
colonies and Indians...I'm sure you remember where William Penn sat under
that famous tree in Philadelphia in 1692/3 and purchased land from the
Indians....well 54 years before that in 1638 our Ancestor Jacob Avertssen
Sandelin and 3 others
purchased all the land from fort New Sweden about 26 miles up the River
beyond Philadelphia and as far as you could walk west...which really meant
to the Pacific Ocean from the Indians. so they should put that in the
history book.
Well I believe that Jacob had at least 3 sons and the 1st one shows up 20
years after Jacob is on record with his boat in 1646 and this record was
written in October 1666 and list Edward Sandland-no e in his name as the
master of his ship in the Virginia ports loading cargo bound for
Tangiers,West Africa. in 1664 we have another person named
James Sandeland. who spelled his name on his tombstone... Sandeland now he
was a very wealthy educated man who knew how spell his name this man came to
the same town Chester in Delaware
which later was Chester, Pa as Jacob Sandelin settled in 1638...father son?
yes...I believe that Edward and James were brothers a seed of Jacob they
were all 3 wealthy...some of the books that you read and things you see will
say that we are out of James Sandeland...not so!!! as his family is well
documented beyond any doubt.
the only reasonable way we of Virginia can make our case thru Edward
Sandland and Nicholas Sandland who lived in York Co ,Va in 1689 and he
should have been born around 1665/? if he owned that as he did according to
court
records filled in that county today!
A lot of records appeared to make the other case James Sandeland was our
ancestor and a lot of research was done it looked right until recent records
proved other wise beyond
the doubt... now the only solution open to us is accept this theory...and do
so until we find something else..and if something appears then take that and
go with it. believe me I'm looking for more records because there are other
Sandlands that we can't pin down but they are all women...women seem to get
lost in the records in those days and we owe it to them to track them down
and fit them into our records.
We must take what we have as our best record as anyone digging up bones
and fragments from a million years ago and hope that what we have is true as
to the best of our knowledge so far...we are after the truth not how pretty
we
make ourselves.
No doubt we are relatives of the Sandilands as only our e separate us from
those who have a i like Sandiland..
it could very well be that a brother in the same family spelled his name
different so that in the recorded land records he wanted his land which
he may have owned a lot more to not be merged by mistake into the hands of
his bothers sons.
that to me seems a reasonable approach.
well its late .
anyone wishing to question my ideas may do so and I would welcome it...we
all need to share and exchange ideas
that's why this was set up... for the benefit of all.
Mel Sandlin..Richmond,Va


----- Original Message -----
From: "john sandlin" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 1:48 PM
Subject: [SANDLIN-L] Nels G. Sandelin


> I found a Nels G. Sandelin in the 1920 Census Jefferson Co. Kentucky. He
>
> was 32 yrs old a naturalized citizen in 1894. It looks like he came
> to America around 1889 from Sweden. Nels G. Sandelin was
> a sergeant at Camp Zachary Taylor ( Louisville, Ky).
> Who is he ???
>
>

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