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From: john sandlin <>
Subject: Re: [SANDLIN-L] Nels G. Sandelin
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:14:10 -0700
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Mel, thank you for the information.

John

Mel & Nancy Sandlin wrote:

> Hi John,
> saw your post and was a little hesitant in answering it as I'm sure he is
> important to some one in Kentucky where my people came from, He was one of
> the last from down the line that came here and why he decided to come to
> Kentucky makes me wonder!!! there was a Sandlin under every rock in Kentucky
> at that period and since almost all Swedish Sandelins spelled it that way
> they normally drop the e after the d... I hope some one can answer your
> question
> but the chance of anyone being related to our first ancestor is nil.
> I'll probably waste my time as I'm sure you know that the 1st Sandlin that
> came here was in 1638... Jacob Avertssen Sandelin he was a seaman by trade
> ...born in 1600 in Scotland...a fact..parents unknown..his age was written
> down by the Capt of the ship who hired
> him in 1637 in Amsterdam, Holland as a British seaman born in Scotland in
> 1600...the Capt ...was Peter Minuet who later wrote a book describing how
> she the young Queen of Sweden backed a request by Peter Minute to send a
> settlement to the new world called New Sweden on the West River ..now
> renamed the Delaware River...the ship left Sweden in Dec 1637 and arrived in
> March 1638 in Jamestown , Virginia...picked up some wood and water and
> sailed to the Delaware River..not wishing to hang around Jamestown very long
> as the English would deny them land here.
> His name Jacob Avertssen Sandelin was written down by the Swedish
> historians and therefore wrote Sandelin as they spell his name not as
> Sandeland as the Scottish would have spelled it...or as the Dutch would have
> spelled
> it Sandlyn. Jacob I believe came from a wealthy family as he was the 2nd
> mate on the ship he came on which means he was an officer on board this ship
> name Kalmar Nyckel...later in 1646 he had his own ship and traded with the
> colonies and Indians...I'm sure you remember where William Penn sat under
> that famous tree in Philadelphia in 1692/3 and purchased land from the
> Indians....well 54 years before that in 1638 our Ancestor Jacob Avertssen
> Sandelin and 3 others
> purchased all the land from fort New Sweden about 26 miles up the River
> beyond Philadelphia and as far as you could walk west...which really meant
> to the Pacific Ocean from the Indians. so they should put that in the
> history book.
> Well I believe that Jacob had at least 3 sons and the 1st one shows up 20
> years after Jacob is on record with his boat in 1646 and this record was
> written in October 1666 and list Edward Sandland-no e in his name as the
> master of his ship in the Virginia ports loading cargo bound for
> Tangiers,West Africa. in 1664 we have another person named
> James Sandeland. who spelled his name on his tombstone... Sandeland now he
> was a very wealthy educated man who knew how spell his name this man came to
> the same town Chester in Delaware
> which later was Chester, Pa as Jacob Sandelin settled in 1638...father son?
> yes...I believe that Edward and James were brothers a seed of Jacob they
> were all 3 wealthy...some of the books that you read and things you see will
> say that we are out of James Sandeland...not so!!! as his family is well
> documented beyond any doubt.
> the only reasonable way we of Virginia can make our case thru Edward
> Sandland and Nicholas Sandland who lived in York Co ,Va in 1689 and he
> should have been born around 1665/? if he owned that as he did according to
> court
> records filled in that county today!
> A lot of records appeared to make the other case James Sandeland was our
> ancestor and a lot of research was done it looked right until recent records
> proved other wise beyond
> the doubt... now the only solution open to us is accept this theory...and do
> so until we find something else..and if something appears then take that and
> go with it. believe me I'm looking for more records because there are other
> Sandlands that we can't pin down but they are all women...women seem to get
> lost in the records in those days and we owe it to them to track them down
> and fit them into our records.
> We must take what we have as our best record as anyone digging up bones
> and fragments from a million years ago and hope that what we have is true as
> to the best of our knowledge so far...we are after the truth not how pretty
> we
> make ourselves.
> No doubt we are relatives of the Sandilands as only our e separate us from
> those who have a i like Sandiland..
> it could very well be that a brother in the same family spelled his name
> different so that in the recorded land records he wanted his land which
> he may have owned a lot more to not be merged by mistake into the hands of
> his bothers sons.
> that to me seems a reasonable approach.
> well its late .
> anyone wishing to question my ideas may do so and I would welcome it...we
> all need to share and exchange ideas
> that's why this was set up... for the benefit of all.
> Mel Sandlin..Richmond,Va
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john sandlin" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 1:48 PM
> Subject: [SANDLIN-L] Nels G. Sandelin
>
> > I found a Nels G. Sandelin in the 1920 Census Jefferson Co. Kentucky. He
> >
> > was 32 yrs old a naturalized citizen in 1894. It looks like he came
> > to America around 1889 from Sweden. Nels G. Sandelin was
> > a sergeant at Camp Zachary Taylor ( Louisville, Ky).
> > Who is he ???
> >
> >

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