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From: "John Steitz" <>
Subject: Re: [SCANLON] SCANNELL or SCANLON (CORK TO WALES TO PITTSBURGH)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:21:03 -0400
In-Reply-To: <8C9690EA11C580D-1AD8-7673@WEBMAIL-MA13.sysops.aol.com>


Tom-
This very interesting. It is the best I have seen so far although obviously
there is a ways to go. I believe the draw for them to Pittsburgh was like
many others the steel industry and al the peripheral opportunities but I am
not certain of that. The iron industry was dieing in Merthyr about the time
the family came to the US after a couple rogue efforts at relocating in
England.
The naming patterns along with the destination support your thoughts so I am
definitely interested in exploring this further. Have you had any luck going
back further? Unfortunately, I have learned that most of the boat logs were
lost in a fire but I was being hopeful.

John & Mary formerly Scannel/ Scanlon settled in the Lawrenceville section
of Pittsburgh Mulberry Alley to be specific.

Please stay in touch.
JOhn


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Subject: Re: [SCANLON] SCANNELL or SCANLON (CORK TO WALES TO PITTSBURGH)

Dear John,

I have a SCANLAN / SCANLON family from Ireland to Canada (Sarnia, Ontario)
to Pittburgh area and the father, who could be a brother to your Mary was an
Edward!

Source #1: 1881 Canadian Census
Census Place Sarnia, Lambton, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375913
NA Film Number C-13277
District 179
Sub-district B
Division 1
Page Number 61
Household Number 281
Edward SCANLAN M Male Irish 45 Ireland Tailor Roman Catholic

Mary SCANLAN M Female Irish 34 N. B. <New Brunswick> Roman
Catholic
Mary J. SCANLAN Female Irish 15 O. <Ontario> Roman Catholic

Ellen SCANLAN Female Irish 13 N. B. <New Brunswick> Roman
Catholic
Thomas SCANLAN Male Irish 11 N. B. <New Brunswick> Roman
Catholic
Margaret SCANLAN Female Irish 10 O. <Ontario> Roman
Catholic
Johanna SCANLAN Female Irish 8 O. <Ontario> Roman Catholic

Robert SCANLAN Male Irish 4 O. <Ontario> Roman Catholic
Joseph SCANLAN Male Irish 2 O. <Ontario> Roman Catholic

Source #2: Ancestry.com. Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original
data: Archives of Ontario. Registrations of Deaths - 1869-1932. Toronto,
Ontario, Canada: Archives of Ontario. MS935, 455 reels.
Death Registration 014261
Name: Edward Scanlon
Death Date: 2 Dec 1900
Death Location: Lambton, Sarnia
Residence: SE Corner of Albert & Divine Sts
Gender: Male
Occupation: Tailor
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Birth Location: Ireland
Religion: Roman Catholic
Cause: Prostatitis and Cystitis, several months

son: Thomas J. Scanlon:

Source #1: 1910 U. S. Census
Name: Thomas Scanlon
Age in 1910: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Canada English
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Spouse's name: Margaret
Home in 1910: Chartiers, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Scanlon 35
Margaret Scanlon 34
Thomas Scanlon 9
Edmund Scanlon 4
Frances Scanlon 2

Source #2: 1920 U. S. Census
Name: Thomas J Scanlon
Home in 1920: Chartiers, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Age: 43 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: Un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 688
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas J Scanlon 43
Margaret Scanlon 40
Thomas E Scanlon 19
Edmond T Scanlon 14
Francis J Scanlon 12
Regis M Scanlon 8
Source #3: 1930 census
Name: Thomas J Scanlon

Home in 1930: Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret C
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas J Scanlon 58
Margaret C Scanlon 52
Thomas E Scanlon 29
Edmund T Scanlon 25
Regis M Scanlon 18



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Subject: Re: [SCANLON] SCANNELL or SCANLON (CORK TO WALES TO PITTSBURGH)


Welcome John,
There is bound to be someone in the list who can help you. Mine are Scanlon

with my great grandmother Ellen Ferry purportedly coming from Glasgow,
Scotland
with her family into eastern Penn. and spending some time in a Quaker colony

before moving west. She married my great grandfather Cornelius Scanlon in
Davenport, Iowa. She was living there with an older sister who
owned/ran/worked
in a hotel.
Good luck in your search.
Linda

John Steitz <> wrote: I am new to the site and my first
question is about the last name. Every
record I have found Marriage and children Birth certificate lists a Mary
SCANNELL. The Pittsburgh RC Diocese also lists a Mary SCANNELL. However the
family insists the spelling to be SCANLON. My belief is what I read in the
records. However, it is possible that these folk were difficult to
understand for the census takers that the error was not recified until much
later. On all certificates the signatures were "X" . Looking at the Irish
Times site it appears that the roots be the same anyhow. Translation would
differ by geographics so to speak. Could someone share their experience on
this subject. The folk in Wales basically have told me to study both
spellings plus a few other oddball SCANLAN, SCANNOL etc.



My Mary SCANNELL, as I know her, was born about 1834 in Ireland. There has
not been a county or parish reference to date. She married a John BUCKLEY
also born in Ireland on May 18, 1852 at St Illtyd's RC Church in Dowlais,
Glamorgan County, Wales. Her father was listed as Edward Scannell (Deceased)
on certificate. Their children were named Johanna, Edward, Margaret, Ellen,
Bridget, John, Catherine, Cornelius & Jeremiah. John, Mary & the children
moved to Pittsburgh, PA. by 1873 where the last 2 of the children were born.
This date in 1852 is the first recorded evidence of Mary in Wales or England
as she has not been found on 1851 Census rolls. She could have lived as an
unofficial border somewhere under the radar as this was such a tumultuous
time.



I have reason to believe that John BUCKLEY hails from Inchigeelagh Parish,
County Cork but this is not for certain. There is an Edward Scannell in
Inchigeelagh Parish on 1827 Tithe rolls. I have no evidence of a birth to
match my Mary and do not believe that to be a match. Because this couple
could not read or write, I would not be alarmed to find that Edward is
actually Edmund or something similar.



If anyone could lend me some information about the SCANNELL and SCANLON
families and spelling I would be very appreciative. And on a further stretch
if anyone could match this Mary SCANNELL or SCANLON to their family findings
I would be excited to hear from you.



Thanks for taking the time.

John

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