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From: John Seip <>
Subject: Re: [SEIP] Seip
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:50:21 +1000
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Hi ! Karen

I must apologise that i thought you were a decendant of Robert whose
wife lived in the Gatton to Ipswich proximity for some time ,as did
John's wife Shirley in a caravan near Laidley . When I was
travelling continually as a Rep I took her & a young daughter
somewhere into or towards NSW as I was going that way & she was quite
pleasant but disadvantaged by the break -up .

It was iin the course of tracing or following the motor bike trail
that i discovered her in the c/van .But I cannot recall the owner of
the bike he lived then close to the rail line in Gatton . The story
ran that John , the son, borrowed this guys bike to ride to Roma &
never returned ,but some how a message reached the supermarket where
he worked that he had met his doom on the trip . He was very popular
& the S/market closed for a day as a mark of respect & the wrecked
bike was never found years later !!.

But some years later ,maybe 10 ,I had moved to Brisbane &a person I
believe to be the same son called looking for his father as he had
bought a house from the same agent who told him about me & he
naturally was expecting to find his father . I saw or heard no more
of him but until 10 or 15 years ago had many calls for the John I
once knew-- or Jack as he was known -- his father, & probably yours
also.

I believe my G.G/father was a brother to the only other Seip who
migrated to Aust , my G/father was called Jack . Chris was a
descendant of the other brother who also has kin in Sydney ,one of
whom was called Spencer & served in W/War 2 .he spent a weekend with
us during his soldier days ,i was then only about 7 or 8 .There was a
Harry Seip in Sydney whom Dad called uncle also visited us & I am
confident he would have been a son of the other immigrant & also an
uncle to Chris .

Dad always thought Chris was a bit full ofhimself on a piece of
very valuable Real Estate im Margaret St . T/ba ,now part of T/Ba
Grammar school ,though they were very hospitable to me during the
stay. He was never keen to develop a closer association with us .
Jack walked past my Office to & from work before he was married & was
never keen to speak .

He had a very coloured history painted by many artists ,much of which
I would prefer not to print as it was all heresay to me ,as there
would inevitably be exaggeration & imagination included .

I thought Robert lived a reasonably circumspect life OR was not
followed by the same gossip .

My father was Leslie George Seip ,his mother was Annie Sophie Buettel
born in Maryborough . He had 4 sisters & A Brother, Edgar, who died
young as also did one of the girls . Andy Buettel ,her brother
,married one of Jack Seip's ,my G/father . sisters . Buettel was
2-i-c to the Portmaster at Maryborough -- also migrated from Germany
when Maryborough was a major seaport for produce from the area & the
inlet for mining supplies for thr Gympie Goldrush of the day -- no
trains then -- he was also licenced to accept their Gold output&
serviced the area by horse teams. But that diversion is my side of
the puzzle - not yours .

As of the last 10 years it has been a dead subject, but one of the
remaining Germans was here a few years ago with his wife . My
deceased brother had a period of occasional contact with Robert's
wife at Marburg near Ipswich .

The name is traced in Germany almost back to the Reformation ,as the
Catholic Church made life so difficult for Luther followers that
hordes of them went to USA many of whom were enticed by a Richard
Penn & the State of Pennsylvania now bears his name . We know of only
2 coming here .

Our tree is virtually complete ,I have an extensive file of it here
.We have 12 Grandchildren & 2 G/G children .

With Kind regards

john














>Hi John,
>Thanks for emailing me! I never actually met my father, my mother
>had a difficult time after she divorced him and he was never a part
>of our life. He died in 2003. I only started to research my family
>tree in 2002 and then it was very tentaive and I did not really know
>where to start. I did try to get in contact with him but he was in
>a very strange state of mind and did not acknowledge me because I
>had used my mothers maiden name, VOGT. Anyway, in short, I would
>love to hear what you have to say about my family. I ;iterally do
>not know anything. I have dates and other bits and pieces you can
>gleen from historical records but I have no personalities or stories
>to bring them to life. I visited Uncle Bob over a year ago and he
>lent me some photo's and told me some bits and pieces but it would
>be great to get another perspective.
>I am trying to figure out where you fit in and am struggling to. If
>you could give me your line it might help me (or just your father,
>grandfather, g-grandfather and g-grandfather and their dates of
>birth). Are you also researching your family tree?
>Also, the motorcyle story - could you tell memmore. Ii had a bit of
>trouble understanding it. Do you mean that my father (Christopher
>John aka Jack SEIP) had allegedly been killed, or his son had
>allegedly been killed? And who was doing the alleging? Who was the
>owner of the borrowed motorcycle? I knew of an Emil BEUSCHEL who was
>killed in a motorcycle accident in 1954 in Helidon in QLD. Is it him
>you mean??
>Look forward to hearing from you again,
>Regards,
>Karen.
>
>>From: John Seip <>
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [SEIP] SEIP's in QLD, Australia
>>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 01:36:59 +1000
>>
>>Hi Karen !
>>
>>
>>I knew your father & his brother ,even enjoyed a night at their home
>>with their parents in Margaret St Toowoomba . An ex wife of Robert
>>lived for many years at Marburg in Qld -- as did most of the
>>original Seipp's who came from Germany live in Marburg Germany .
>>The name originally had 2 p's -as SEIPP .
>>
>>Robert was involved in Mechanical Engineering at Toowoomba foundry &
>>John was a draughtsman with T/ba City Council . He had a son named
>>John who called at my home seeking his father , some years after he
>>had allegedly been killed in a motorcycle accident en route to Roma
>>,more than 20 years ago. The owner of the allegedly borrowed motor
>>cycle told me the story .
>>
>>John - as your possible uncle & the one I knew in Toowoomba -- was
>>reputed to have lived many years in Melbourne & had a friendship
>>with a Mrs. Yates of North Shore ,Sydney , one of the 'Yates' seeds
>>family whom I met b y accident app. 40 years ago .
>>
>>As far as we are able to establish Chris Seip was a cousin of my
>>father as a grandson of only one other migrant from Germany , my
>>father , Leslie, being a grandson of the other . I had a brother
>>George ,now deceased .
>>
>>Feel free to call again
>>
>>Leslie John SEIP
>>
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