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From: "Susan O'Meara" <>
Subject: Re: Location help - St. Calhouns?
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:54:50 -0400
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Hi Allan,

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the original
records to determine how legible it is. It appears a volunteer from the
region in Michigan transcribed a whole bunch of records and made them
available online via rootsweb. Therefore, I think possibly if the volunteer
did not know the locations in Canada and if the handwriting was a bit
illegible, they may have simply made a best guess attempt. I know I've made
many best guess attempts during my transcriptions of some of the records I'm
doing for St. Peter's Church in London. It helps greatly to know some
Canadian geography - if I didn't, I would pretty clueless.

Yes, that is the Charles Sutherland you found in the 1880 census. It is his
wife, Julia Toohey, that I am interested in tracking down mostly. Of
course, the best route to do that is through the husband as I'm having a
hard time tracking down Julia's siblings in the area. The 1890 census for
the USA doesn't exist an by 1900 I can't seem to find Charles, Julia or the
girls anywhere in the US (at least not definitively). I thought maybe the
family migrated from the area and was hoping if I can find a migration
pattern for Charles siblings it might indicate a possible migration pattern
Charles and his family followed.

It's all been a crap shoot really. I've been following the Toohey family
from the Biddulph/London area for years and they are almost as elusive to
figure out as my O'Meara's. I am still not certain the Toohey ancestors
Julia comes from are related to mine in the area, but it is one of my
ongoing obessions to try and figure out!

Sue in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "vardy-wands" <>
To: "'Susan O'Meara'" <>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Location help - St. Calhouns?


> Hello Sue:
>
> My first guess is that the place you want is St. Catharines. How legible
> is your source record that shows 'St. Calhouns'?
>
> You might also try the Canadian Geographical Names site at:
>
> http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php
>
> There are a number of 'Calhoun/Calhoon' places/features in several
> provinces if you search for 'calh*'. None of these have 'St or Saint' as
> part of the name. You can search using wild cards to see if there are
> any similar places to your 'st calhouns' and you have to use 'saint c*'
> instead of 'st' or use 'st. c*'. Nothing came up when I used 'st c*' or
> even 'st catharines' (which I know exists!) without the period.
>
> I see that the 1881 USA census (on the LDS site) lists a household with
> Charles H SUTHERLAND at age 26 and wife named Julia at age 20, both
> being born in Ontario C. (the C. probably means Canada) and 2 young
> children born in MI. Perhaps this household is your family. I don't know
> if any immigration records were kept when he moved from Canada to the
> USA.
>
> The Ontario Vital Statistics - Marriages site shows the following
> SUTHERLAND mention in St. Catharines. But all this really shows is that
> there was a household in St. Catharines in 1876 by this name, unless you
> recognize the one mentioned.
>
> "6071-76 Thomas John CORCORAN, 30, mason, Newfoundland, St. Catharines,
> s/o William & Catherine, married Mary Eddie HARTMAN, 18, Ontario, St.
> Catharines, d/o Jacob John & Sarah Susannah, witn: Henry SUTHERLAND &
> Priscilla FLETCHER, both of St. Catharines, 28 Sept 1876 at St.
> Catharines"
>
> Don't know if any of this will help you.
>
> Good luck with your searching.
>
> Allan Wands, Toronto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan O'Meara [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:10 PM
> To:
> Subject: Location help - St. Calhouns?
>
> Looking for information on a place called St. Calhouns - possibly in
> Ontario? There was a reference to a Charles H. Sutherland having been
> born there, but when I looked on the Ontario locator, I came up empty.
> Anyone heard of such a location or what possibly an alternative mistaken
> location might be? Charles H. Sutherland was supposedly born there in
> 1854 but by 1876 he is married in Michigan.
>
> Thanks!
> Sue O'Meara
>
> ______________________________
>
>
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