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From: "Janet" <>
Subject: Re: [YOXALL] Lily Yoxall born 1890
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:43:16 +0800
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Hello Peter,

Yes, after hearing from Joan I've now put Martha, John Thomas, Ernest, Clara Fair and Moses Yoxall under Jane Bradley in my tree. As far as the parentage of them is concerned, the younger ones may even have been Matthew's children, but in any event she probably just registered the babies under her then own surname as Yoxalls. We might never find out who their father(s) are.

Anyway, after amending my tree as above, I did some research on Matthew Bradley's family, and its amazing how the different surnames keep popping up again and again. I remember a Faulkner appearing in a ???Yoxall household Census record way back, and I noticed that Phoebe Bradley also became a Falkner[Faulkner]. I don't know if they're related, but my husband's grandfather Charles Lewis Yoxall born 1880 in Manchester, Lancashire married Margaret Faulkner born 1895 in Manchester. I hit a brick wall when I was researching her family - even Jim's tree sadly didn't help - but I shall delve further into that area. Sorry.. I digress.....

I shall get onto the Motterheads now and get back to you if I find any connection between Lily and Ernest.

Regards,
Janet

----- Original Message -----
From: peter byford
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [YOXALL] Lily Yoxall born 1890


Jane,
Following all messages so far - I think.

I don't have any children for Thomas and Emily, as you say the 4 you had
were Jane's possibly illegitimate. Sounds a bit like a Grace Byford I had ,
she had 11 children between 1852 and 1870. Husband , William Byford, died in
1861 - this didn't seem to stop the baby production - I wonder how many were
his before he died!
Regards,
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [YOXALL] Lily Yoxall born 1890


>
> Hello Joan,
>
> I've just read your e-mail - sorry I sent mine before I'd seen it.
>
> You have really helped regarding advising that Thomas died in 1871, and
> confirming that Martha and Clara are Jane's children. Obviously he
> couldn't be the father of any children born after 1871, so I'll have to
> look into that further. I also didn't know that Jane married Matthew
> Bailey so that is a big help too - I did see her listed as a lodger with
> the Baileys, but obviously didn't notice that she was a Widow then.
>
> Thanks again for the information.
>
> Regards,
> Janet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joan Gallagher
> To: ;
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [YOXALL] Lily Yoxall born 1890
>
>
> Peter, although I do not have the complete details of the marriage of
> Lily
> YOXALL and Harold MOTTERSHEAD, they were married at St. Mary's Church,
> Weaverham. I would therefore suggest that this particular Lily YOXALL
> was
> the daughter of James YOXALL and Mary Ann SHALLCROSS. James and Mary
> Ann
> were married at St. Mary's, Weaverham and Lily was also baptised there.
> As
> far as I can tell the YOXALL's in Weaverham stemmed from the above James
> YOXALL and William YOXALL, both sons of James YOXALL and Frances/Fanny
> HIGGINS.
>
> Regarding Jane BRADLEY. Jane was a Spinster when she married Thomas
> YOXALL
> in 1860, she was not previously married. Jane and Thomas had several
> children between 1861 and 1869, i.e. Hannah, Elizabeth, William, Fanny,
> and
> Thomas.
>
> Jane's husband, Thomas, died in 1871. However, Jane went on to have
> more
> children between the years 1873 and 1884, i.e. Martha, John Thomas,
> Ernest,
> Clara Fair, and Moses. They were given the surname YOXALL but obviously
> they are not the children of Thomas YOXALL !!
>
> Jane does not appear to have remarried until 1892 when she married
> Matthew
> BAILEY. She is shown as a Widow on both the 1881 and 1891 censuses.
> On
> the 1881 she is a boarder with a family named MOTTERSHEAD, and on the
> 1891
> she is a Lodger with Matthew BAILEY.
>
> I haven't looked into any MOTTERSHEAD family history so am unable to say
> whether there is any connection between the MOTTERSHEAD who married Lily
> and
> the one who married Ernest.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers............Joan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter byford" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:36 AM
> Subject: [YOXALL] Lily Yoxall born 1890
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > A GR correspondent is the granddaughter of Lily Yoxall and her husband
> > Harold Mottershead(new to me). This information led me to look at the
> > Mottersheads in my tree - married to Ernest etc. These are not linked
> to
> > Lily's line - maybe it will help to make that link.
> >
> > I noticed that Ernest who married Lily Mottershead has a mother Jane
> > Bradley but an unknown Yoxall as father . Jane apparently married an
> > Unknown Yoxall and then Thomas. Is this correct, does anyone know who
> Jane
> > Bradley's first husband was please?
> >
> > I will let you know if she has any more information.
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> > Peter G Byford
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